[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Publication of Draft Charging Scheme Models 2024

Hi guys,I want to use this medium to beg/ ask for your nomination of me into the ripe board this time, I have already gotten some support but i would be honoured to have the support and endorsement of all my fellow LIR on ripe, the reasons why I am running this time are these:1) Ripe NCC though claims to be a non-profit has for the past 7 years increased its billing by 35% totally ignoring the plight of small and medium LIR.2) Ripe ignores all of the complaint of small LIR to favour big businesses.3) LIR do not receive equal representations on Ripe, 
If you nominate me, there will be no big, large, Enterprise LIR, small and medium size LIR, every LIR would be the same , no more generalised FAQ but rather every issue presented by LIR would be handled as per the LIR:
Please nominate :
John Issa ErivonaTrading as “ Intigrad Technologies” 
As your right choice 

Thanks guys







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On Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 2:18 pm, Vitalii Zubok <vit at visti.net> wrote:



On 28.04.2023 17:40, Kaj Niemi wrote:
> FWIW, ARIN does not seem to have a problem with charging larger 
> organizations more, see 
> https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/ 
> <https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/>

Thanks for this link.

Also I've noticed that in ARIN,
/20 up to and including /18  plus /32 up to and including /28
are referred as SMALL, with a fee of $2000, not $4000+ as proposed in 
model A.


> 
> Does anyone know whether such large orgs have more influence with ARIN? 
> Referring to the mail from the EB a few days ago, EB seems to be of the 
> opinion that RIPE NCC couldn't charge recipients of larger allocations 
> in RIPEland more than 10k because of $factors such as "these larger 
> companies would want a greater say in the organisation’s governance as a 
> result of their increased contribution".
> 
> While on that topic, I wonder why the EB recommends option 1 and thinks 
> that the smaller organizations would not want to have a larger say in 
> the organization's [RIPE's] governance as a result of their increased 
> contribution.......
> 
> But sure, we can compare service fees. It seems that the imaginary LIR 
> with IPv4 /21 + IPv4 /22 + 1 ASN + IPv6 /32 would in America,where 
> everything is huge, pay only $1000 or 908 euro annually. If you have 
> other resources, you're not getting charged for the price of an ASN.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kaj
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> *From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of 
> Michel Lanners <michel.lanners at lu-cix.lu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2023 23:57
> *To:* Elvis Daniel Velea <elvis at v4escrow.net>
> *Cc:* RIPE member discuss list <members-discuss at ripe.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Publication of 
> Draft Charging Scheme Models 2024
> Exceptionally replying to someone in particular:
> 
>> except him and the board of an RIR that needs to spend €40m/year 
>> (double than the other RIRs - ARIN is at about $20m, LACNIC - $10m, 
>> APNIC - $21m, only the NCC needs $45m) and increase budget with 
>> 10-15%/year.
> 
> It’s not fair to compare budgets. Compare membership fees. ARIN’s fees 
> are for example higher or much higher, depending on service, while their 
> budget is half. Apples and oranges?
> 
> *Michel LANNERS*
> CIO at LU-CIX Management G.I.E.
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