[members-discuss] Non paid sponsor LIR contracts and client escape to another sponsor

Hi Tomasz,

The RIPE NCC does indeed have "force transfer" procedures in place. This is
helpful for example when a previous LIR is non-responsive.

The NCC is not a party to the sponsorship agreement, and the collection of
any debts arising from them is the LIR's responsibility. Many LIRs will
only provide services after payment is received.

Matthias Merkel

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 2:51 PM REG ID: pl.ip4isp <lir at skonet.pl> wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Case: You receive a request to change the sponsor LIR on independent
> client resources that you maintain by the Sponsor LIR contract.
> You check, that your client has not paid for the LIR contract.
>
> You answer to RIPE NCC, that you will agree to the change, but when the
> client will pay off the debt. RIPE NCC replies that:
> a) he does not care that the client has not paid for the contract,
> b) forcibly performs the transfer without the consent of the current
> sponsor LIR.
>
> As a result, the LIR sponsor is left with a debt, the collection
> possibilities of which are drastically reduced.
>
> For comparison: if you do not pay your annual invoice to RIPE NCC, the
> LIR SSA will be terminated and the resources deregistered. With no
> discussion.
>
> Does RIPE NCC allow non-paying End Users to migrate with impunity
> between Sponsor-LIR's? In this way, the customer can freely never pay
> anyone for the Sponsor-LIR contract.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> pl.ip4isp Tomasz Śląski
>
>
>
>
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