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Oleg Zinkov o.zinkov at kyivlink.com
Sat Mar 5 10:59:14 CET 2022


05.03.2022 11:29, alex пишет:
> I would like to stipuate that using obscene lexics is unacceptable under any circumstances.

For Putin's flatterer...

And armed aggression, respectively, is allowed?
Your requirements are one-sided.

Ukrainian want to work and develop the IT industry. Instead, we have to 
sit in basements and shelters, hiding from rocket fire.
Do not argue, focus on ending the war.


>> When I read these stories about democracy, voting, etc. nonsense, I
>> cant't believe my eyes.
>>
>> The soap bubble burst. The world from 02/24/2022 is definitely
>> different. Wake up. Sober up. Don't drink vodka, don't smoke grass. Take
>> off your pink glasses. They shoot civilians people their houses, cluster
>> bombs kill children.
>>
>> And you're fu*king about democracy and neutrality.
>>
>> If the world fails to stop the aggressors, let their own people disarm
>> them. Go to work!
>>
>> -- 
>> Stary Bezpiek
>>
>> Слава Україні!
>> русский корабль иди нахуй!
>>
>> W dniu 05.03.2022 o 09:03, George Porter via members-discuss pisze:
>>> The fact is that Russia has attacked a sovereign country . The Russian
>>> army is  killing, yes KILLING ordinary people, so RIPE standup and be
>>> counted and do what is needed to make Russia feel isolated. Close all
>>> ties with Russia.
>>>
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>>> *From:*members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *On Behalf
>>> Of *C A
>>> *Sent:* 04 March 2022 20:42
>>> *To:* NOC <noc at medsigroup.ru>
>>> *Cc:* ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; discuss at enog.org; Members Discuss
>>> <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme Committee <pc at ripe.net>;
>>> support at voks.ua; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org>;
>>> exec-board at ripe.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
>>>
>>> Why is this political nonsense polluting my inbox?
>>>
>>> The chair stepped down. Organise a new chair.
>>>
>>> If the community doesnt exist it will die on it's own through lack of
>>> participation.
>>>
>>> Stop with the cancel culture shenanigains.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, 21:37 NOC, <noc at medsigroup.ru> wrote:
>>>
>>>       Спасибо, что поправили.
>>>       ?
>>>
>>>
>>>       С уважением,
>>>       Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич
>>>
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>>>       тел. +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. 11011
>>>       моб.+7 (915) 119-89-58
>>>
>>>       www.medsi.ru <http://www.medsi.ru>
>>>
>>>
>>>       -----Original Message-----
>>>       From: ripe at voks.ua [mailto:ripe at voks.ua]
>>>       Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 11:30 PM
>>>       To: NOC <noc at medsigroup.ru>
>>>       Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com>;
>>>       exec-board at ripe.net; ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; discuss at enog.org;
>>>       Members Discuss <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme
>>>       Committee <pc at ripe.net>; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org>
>>>       Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
>>>
>>>       Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не
>>>       так ли?
>>>
>>>       --
>>>       www.voks.ua <http://www.voks.ua>
>>>
>>>       On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote
>>>       > Добрый вечер!
>>>       > А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы!
>>>       >
>>>       >
>>>       > С уважением,
>>>       > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич
>>>       >
>>>       > Руководитель проектов
>>>       > Департамента развития инфраструктуры
>>>       > Блока по информационным технологиям
>>>       > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ»
>>>       > тел. +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. 11011
>>>       > www.medsi.ru <http://www.medsi.ru>
>>>       >
>>>       > -----Original Message-----
>>>       > From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On
>>>       > Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko
>>>       > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM
>>>       > To: exec-board at ripe.net; ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; discuss at enog.org;
>>>       > Members Discuss <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme
>>>       Committee
>>>       > <pc at ripe.net>; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org>
>>>       > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
>>>       >
>>>       > If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of
>>>       ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures.
>>>       > When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community,
>>>       reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official
>>>       position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all.
>>>       >
>>>       > Considering that many of the people are in a difficult emotional
>>>       state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their
>>>       ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this matter
>>>       in the fall.
>>>       > I hope by this time the events will have settled down.
>>>       >
>>>       > Peace for all, NO TO WAR.
>>>       >
>>>       >
>>>       > On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
>>>       > > Peace,
>>>       > > (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever
>>>       be, —
>>>       > > because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace)
>>>       > >
>>>       > > As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network
>>>       Operators
>>>       > > Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that
>>>       the RIPE
>>>       > > Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the
>>>       potential
>>>       > > future meetings indefinitely.
>>>       > >
>>>       > > Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE
>>>       > > Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating
>>>       Ukrainian,
>>>       > > Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other
>>>       > > regional communities in the hope of building a better shared
>>>       > > Internet space among the communities.
>>>       > >
>>>       > > In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the
>>>       > > said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it
>>>       could
>>>       > > be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme
>>>       for
>>>       > > all the distinct and divided communities colloqually
>>>       recognized as
>>>       > > ENOG at the time.
>>>       > >
>>>       > > Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this
>>>       > > should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we
>>>       > > currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile
>>>       attacks_,
>>>       > > and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote
>>>       in the PC.
>>>       > >
>>>       > > Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't
>>>       > > believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE
>>>       > > Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further due
>>>       > > diligence, to hold any official community position in the RIPE
>>>       > > community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair.
>>>       > >
>>>       > > It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to
>>>       decide
>>>       > > on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to
>>>       act.
>>>       > > It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any
>>>       > > future alignments to replace ENOG.
>>>       > >
>>>       > > Stay safe.
>>>       > >
>>>       > > --
>>>       > > Töma
>>>       > >
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