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Denys Fedoryshchenko
nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com
Fri Mar 4 21:57:46 CET 2022
On 2022-03-04 22:28, Alex Semenyaka wrote: > Hi there, > > I see here an evident issue. You see, first of all, ENOG is a > community, not an event or a trademark. And you cannot force somebody > to be a part of the community. Like, operators from Russia voted that > operators from Ukraine have to be friends with them, or what? As far as I remember, membership in ENOG is voluntary, and no one is forced to stay. If someone have a difficult psychological situation, and he think that it is hard to be in such group, it is his right to leave such group/society, this is called personal freedom. I want to remind that attempts of individuals to decide for a large number of people - violates the right of these people for personal choice and called a dictatorship. > >> On 4 Mar 2022, at 21:06, Denys Fedoryshchenko >> <nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com> wrote: >> If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of ENOG, >> there are proper, democratic voting procedures. >> When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community, >> reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official >> position >> or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all. >> >> Considering that many of the people are in a difficult emotional >> state >> and a state of great stress, which interfere with their ability >> making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this matter in the >> fall. >> I hope by this time the events will have settled down. >> >> Peace for all, NO TO WAR. >> >> On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: >> >>> Peace, >>> (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, >>> — >>> because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace) >>> As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators >>> Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the >>> RIPE >>> Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the >>> potential >>> future meetings indefinitely. >>> Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE >>> Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian, >>> Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other >>> regional >>> communities in the hope of building a better shared Internet space >>> among the communities. >>> In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the >>> said >>> "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could be >>> clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for >>> all >>> the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as >>> ENOG at >>> the time. >>> Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this >>> should've >>> gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we currently >>> have >>> several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_, and I >>> therefore >>> don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC. >>> Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't >>> believe >>> I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE Service >>> Region >>> to still invest trust in me, without further due diligence, to >>> hold >>> any official community position in the RIPE community; therefore, >>> I >>> hereby step down as the PC Chair. >>> It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to >>> decide >>> on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act. >>> It >>> is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any >>> future >>> alignments to replace ENOG. >>> Stay safe. >>> -- >>> Töma >>> _______________________________________________ >>> members-discuss mailing list >>> members-discuss at ripe.net >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> Unsubscribe: >>> >> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/nuclearcat%40nuclearcat.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/asemenyaka%40ripe.net
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