[members-discuss] Reply: Re: Reply: A request to terminate ENOG

To be understood, my uncle who is over 80 lives in Kiev. Any questions left?

Still I do see any connection between the war and ENOG. And I think, that Russia and Ukraine are not the only ENOG members.
Sure, let's destroy everything good left. 
> Kharkiv is being shelled by MRLS from Russia's territory. 
> Chernihiv is being shelled by MRLS and aircraft from Belarus' territory. 
> Kyiv is being shelled by Iskanders from Belarus' territory. 
> I've seen explosions of your P-500 rockets by my own eyes from my window. 
> Mariupol is being ruined with shellings from all sides. 
> Your crazy president ordered to open fire on Zaporizhya nuclear plant. 
> It is the biggest NPP in Europe. 
>
> But for you ENOG termination is to "escalate conflict that far" ?! 
>
> Are there _normal_ people still left in your rotten country? 
>
> You may push your "deep regrets" in your ass. ENOG is dead from 2014, let's 
> finally bury it. 
>
> P.S. While I was writing this, a next air alert siren started ringing. 
> Thank you, russian "brothers". 
>
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 02:03:27 +0300, alex wrote: 
> > Dear  Töma, 
> > I believe I have read your message in one of the telegram channels today. Still could not find the logic of it. I would like to stipulate, that I deeply regret, that people are under attack at the moment, no matter if they are ENOG/RIPE or any other entity members. This should have never happened in 21 century, as we all thought we have learned harsh lessons of the WW II. 
> > 
> > Niether the  less,  it really necessary to escalate the conflict that far? 
> > 
> > If you are convinced that you don't want to run ENOG, with all the respect, maybe it is more expedient to hand over the management to someone else? I seriously doubt that ENOG members support missile  attacks. In my humble opinion, it would not do any good, and apparently it would not stop attacks either. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Peace, 
> > > (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, — 
> > > because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace) 
> > > 
> > > As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators 
> > > Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the RIPE 
> > > Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the potential 
> > > future meetings indefinitely. 
> > > 
> > > Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE 
> > > Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian, 
> > > Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other regional 
> > > communities in the hope of building a better shared Internet space 
> > > among the communities. 
> > > 
> > > In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the said 
> > > "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could be 
> > > clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for all 
> > > the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as ENOG at 
> > > the time. 
> > > 
> > > Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this should've 
> > > gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we currently have 
> > > several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_, and I therefore 
> > > don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC. 
> > > 
> > > Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't believe 
> > > I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE Service Region 
> > > to still invest trust in me, without further due diligence, to hold 
> > > any official community position in the RIPE community; therefore, I 
> > > hereby step down as the PC Chair. 
> > > 
> > > It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to decide 
> > > on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act.  It 
> > > is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any future 
> > > alignments to replace ENOG. 
> > > 
> > > Stay safe. 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Töma 
> > > 
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