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Elvis Daniel Velea
elvis at v4escrow.net
Tue Jul 19 11:33:32 CEST 2022
well, if the Board can not get my message directly, I do hope it gets past moderation so they can see it… 🤞 /elvis On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 02:27 Elvis Daniel Velea <elvis at v4escrow.net> wrote: > Dear Hans, > > if you and the Board were so keen on transparency and discussion, you > would have brought the letter to the community for feedback prior to > signing it. > > my only .2c > > Elvis > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 02:16 Hans Petter Holen <hph at ripe.net> wrote: > >> Dear Sander, all, >> >> The RIPE NCC is part of the NRO, together with the other four RIRs. This >> body has a very clear mission to actively contribute to an open, stable and >> secure Internet. Where joint action or a common voice among the RIRs is >> needed, the NRO provides the platform that allows that to happen. Through >> the NRO, we, along with the other RIRs, have been supporting the efforts to >> maintain a stable Internet presence in Africa. And this letter from the NRO >> is part of those supporting efforts: >> https://www.nro.net/nro-letter-to-mauritius-government/ >> >> The NRO’s letter was a joint effort by the legal teams of the five RIRs, >> after AFRINIC requested our support in the matter. We firmly believe it was >> important to add our name alongside the other RIRs and collectively put our >> weight behind AFRINIC’s request to the Mauritian government. >> >> I understand that not everyone will agree with this approach. I and my >> fellow NRO EC members are committed, however, to being as transparent as >> possible about any such communications to governments and welcome any >> discussions in our communities. This is how it should be. I believe you are >> aware that the RIPE NCC and all the RIRs regularly deal with governments >> when they believe it is necessary to protect the Internet number registry >> system. Indeed, we regularly communicate with the Dutch government in >> relation to sanctions, and we have published much of our correspondence >> with other governments, in line with our commitment to be transparent in >> these matters. If, as the RIPE NCC, we felt that such interactions with >> governments could be helped by adding the weight of the NRO, I hope the >> other RIRs would consider lending their voice to such matters. >> >> Finally, the RIR system is bigger than any of its individual RIRs, so I >> will reiterate what the NRO stated in its recent message asking the AFRINIC >> community to come together to solve issues with its RIR: “The regional >> activities and policy process of an RIR are solely in the hands of that >> community, but the health of those processes is of paramount importance to >> the global Internet community.” >> https://www.nro.net/rirs-message-to-the-afrinic-community/ >> >> This is why the NRO was willing to support AFRINIC in its requests to the >> Mauritian government - while it is up to each RIR community to address >> issues with their own RIR, it is up to all RIRs to address issues that can >> impact the overall system. To not do so would constitute inadequate >> governance on the part of the RIRs. I understand that you do not agree with >> the approach taken here, but I hope you will understand why the RIPE NCC >> and its Board feels it is important that we stand together on this matter. >> >> Regards, >> >> Hans Petter Holen Christian Kaufmann >> Managing Director Chairman >> RIPE NCC RIPE NCC Executive Board >> >> >> > On 13 Jul 2022, at 11:57, Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl> wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I just read the message from the NRO (co-signed by Hans Petter Holen on >> behalf of the RIPE NCC) to the Mauritian Government: >> https://www.nro.net/nro-letter-to-mauritius-government/ and I must say I >> was shocked. >> > >> > The letter is about the lawsuits of Cloud Innovation Ltd (Lu Heng) >> against AFRINIC. The NRO is urging the government to recognise AFRINIC as >> an international organisation "that if granted, it might lead to more >> appropriate outcomes”. So basically the NRO is urging the Mauritian >> government’s executive branch to intervene in its judicial branch. Asking a >> government is to violate their separation of powers is NOT OK™. >> > >> > Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Lu Heng and the way he does >> business, but not all his lawsuits are without merit, so this is something >> for the Mauritian court to decide. The NRO pushing the government to >> intervene goes against the basis of the democratic system. >> > >> > The letter even does more than urging. It basically threatens/insults >> Mauritius: >> > >> > """ >> > To successfully operate a continental wide entity such as AFRINIC, the >> African Internet community deliberately chose to locate its headquarters in >> Mauritius in order to obtain the benefit of a stable and consistent legal >> system. >> > [...] >> > It would be very unfortunate for the African regional community if the >> above situation proves that the designation of Mauritius as the place to >> locate AFRINIC has been wrong. >> > """ >> > >> > This letter has raised some eyebrows around the world (and as I >> understand it in Brussels) to say the least. I would like a response from >> the RIPE NCC and its board on how they have dared to write such a letter. >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > Sander Steffann >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > members-discuss mailing list >> > members-discuss at ripe.net >> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> > Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/hph%40ripe.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/elvis%40v4escrow.net >> > -- > This message was sent from a mobile device. Some typos may be possible. > -- This message was sent from a mobile device. Some typos may be possible. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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