[members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List

I have to agree with Tina on this. 

There are already T&C where the facilitators need to adhere to and some are already violating them and the NCC isn't able (because not all violations are reported..) to curb those. And that won't change .. 

The perception of companies that this list is a managed / trustworthy source of facilitators with a great reputation and that having a bad reflection to the NCC if it isn't, is in my point a bigger issue. 

I would say to remove the list. There are enough resources on the internet to find a IP resource facilitator / broker. There is little to no additional value to gain here by maintaining it and try to enforce upon it. 
Once the list is gone, I would argue that there are still enough options for the NCC to act on T&C violations.. See what ARIN did with Cogent recently .. block their access to the Whois ... 

Erik Bais 

On 07/01/2020, 20:34, "members-discuss on behalf of Morris, Tina via members-discuss" <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net on behalf of members-discuss at ripe.net> wrote:

    The problem I see most frequently with the list of brokers is that people unfamiliar with the community and transfer process take this as a list of approved, trustworthy IPv4 facilitators.  This is not always the case, nor is it possible for RIPE to endorse and rate each broker. I know there is a disclaimer on the list  but people don't read these warnings, the mere existence on the website acts as an endorsement.  Therefore, I would like to see either the list removed or add a way for people to leave reviews.
    
    On 12/20/19, 11:10 AM, "members-discuss on behalf of Carlos Friaças via members-discuss" <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net on behalf of members-discuss at ripe.net> wrote:
    
        
        On Thu, 19 Dec 2019, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
        
        > On 19/12/2019 11:17, Christian Kaufmann wrote:
        >
        > I vote to keep the list since it is needed and does provide incentive to 
        > brokers to play by the rules.  In addition to keeping the list, RIPE NCC 
        > should auto-send a CoC to brokers on an automatic basis once a quarter.  Any 
        > broker that the email bounces should be removed from the list.  Any broker 
        > that doesn't ACK the auto-email within 5 business days should be removed from 
        > the list.
        >
        > Regards,
        > Hank
        
        Hi,
        
        I would be flexible about the 5 business days deadline, but what Hank 
        described seems a good approach to me.
        
        Regards,
        Carlos
        
    
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