[members-discuss] BLACK FRIDAY IPv4 transfer

I actually disagree with you Sebastian.

The transfer between LIR's from different owners should be completely 
forbidden.
The only case i see that RIPE should allow the transfer will be for 
enterprises only, and only when the enterprise is being acquired by 
another enterprise.

If the transfer between LIR's is forbidden, it will insure:
- There won't be a savage creation of new LIRs with the only intent to 
transfer/acquire IPs.
- It will reduce the production of profit by IPv4 selling to a very very 
minimum.
- LIR's that won't use the IPs, won't have any other choice to keep them 
or to give them back. But RPKI validation can be set to prevent LIRs to 
keep unused IPs for a long time.

Important Note: RIPE is a association, not a enterprise. And again, THE 
IPs DON'T BELONG TO LIRs, THEY BELONG TO RIPE!

This subject is also being touched because of the IPv4 run-out. Everyone 
had enough time to deploy IPv6, why didn't they had? Is it more 
profitable to purchase IPv4 than deploy IPv6?
You said that developpers aren't thinking on IPv6 yet. OFC they don't! 
If providers push the IPv6, and start decomissioning the IPv4, Devs 
won't have other choice than think and update their softwares to support 
IPv6.

A 2019-11-29 14:07, Sebastian Wiesinger escreveu:

We had this discussion many years ago. LIRs were "transferring" IP
ranges and the RIPE NCC had no way of knowing who was actually using
them. The "official" way to do it was implemented so that the database
was accurate.

If people want to pay money for the transfer that is their decision.
They will do it anyway.

I see no benefit in doing the same discussion all over again just to
have IPv4 space run out again a few weeks later.

Anyway, this would be something for the address policy WG.

Regards

Sebastian