[members-discuss] RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers

Hi,

We periodically answer queries from brokers.
One of the reasons we do this is to let them know we are overseeing our 
IP address space, so it's not a good idea for them to impersonate our 
organization (with the goal of a future sell) or try to hijack some 
slices.

Something i have also seen is at least one example of a listed broker 
which has entered insolvency (court ruling is public) but after a long 
time, it's still listed *today*. Insolvency is one of the reasons the 
contract with the NCC is to be "terminated with immediate effect".

I don't have a problem with having a public list, as long as the RIPE NCC 
handles reports/claims from those who become victims of any of the 
list's members -- i.e. by evaluating the reports/claims and updating the 
list...

Cheers,
Carlos


On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, Jetten Raymond wrote:

> Thank you Sergey for bringing this up. I received it too on an address only in the database, and was about to write my usual response to these about the misuse of the DB, and promising them all possible legal problems if i would see
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> I dont see the point for the ripe NCC to keep a list of brokers on the website if some of them do not even follow the rules. Free advertizing ?
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> Lets change that list into a list of shame, remove the brokers that comply with the rules, and warn the community about misbehaving (proven like this one) brokers...
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> I'm sure that if someone needs an IPv4 broker they know how to use search engines.
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> Rgds
> Ray.
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> Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone.
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> Kohteesta: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> henkilön Sergey Myasoedov <kaa at net-art.cz> puolesta
> Lähetetty: lauantaina 16. marraskuuta 2019 klo 14.07
> Vastaanottaja: members-discuss at ripe.net
> Aihe: [members-discuss] RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers
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> Dear RIPE NCC, members,
> I would like to raise an issue of misuse of the RIPE Database by the brokers. I've reported different issues to RIPE NCC, but every time I receive a reassurance that appropriate measures will be taken.
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> I am pretty sure that broker agreements and LIR contracts should be reviewed for every case of misuse of the RIPE NCC.
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> But this specific broker - Supplity - is still sending spam using the RIPE DB contacts and nothing has happened to them. So I would like to collect more data, whether someone else has reported their spam to NCC. And finally to ask a
> question why nothing is happened to their broker status.
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> Thank you.
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> Kind regards,
> Sergey Myasoedov
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