[members-discuss] New Charging Scheme

On Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 01:49:47PM +0200, ivaylo wrote:
> There are no doubts the future belongs to IPV6. But if we have no good 
> scheme to control resource usage, what guarantee us 10-15 years after 
> full ipv6 deploy we will be in same situation as now

See mailing list for previous discussions. tl;dr - not a problem

> To be realistic I cant imagine how in next 10 years IPV6 will be fully 
> deployed and will full substitute IPV4 from technical point of view

When people really can't get any v4 they will deal with it. People
will sell nat boxes designed to make translation easy to set up
for the things that really have to stay on v4 and talk to limited
v6 things. For everything else the devices will be upgraded/replaced
with something that can v6.

> The migration will happen naturaly when there are no other options, 
> pushing it will make only difficulties to Internet users and providers 
> (all of us).

It'll be painful whenever it happens so may as well get on with it now

> For me IP market is one big crap. Internet Resources must go where they 
> are needed, not to sit locked and unused, because somebody want to earn 
> easy money from this (speculators to go on exchanges here are no room for 
> them). RIPE must take back all these nets which sits on the market, 
> because obviously they are free and not used.

No point, it just delays migration to v6 by a short amount

> My opinion about charging scheme change for 2019 is positive. If your 
> bussiness dont allow to pay 1400 euro in once, then you should not be LIR. 
> There are and other options for you. With the scheme change maybe some
> smaller speculants that try to rent/sell resources only will gone.

Agreed, those who are troubled by the changes can blame the speculators. The
speculators can shut up you've made enough money scamming resources at
everyone elses expense, pay your annual bills.

brandon