[members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List

"Conversely, it's clear that some brokers are still spamming RIPE Database
contacts. Is this the only problem we are seeking to eliminate here, or are
there others? Could an updated set of terms or a stricter approach by the
RIPE NCC help to mitigate this?

Before the board makes its decision, we would like to hear your thoughts on
this list."

Hello,

I think it's worth considering that removing the broker list will not remove
the spam problem; it might have the opposite effect. I am not sure how the
presence of the list corresponds with a broker's ability to spam. The
transfer logs are public, Whois contacts are public, how is the broker list
connected? 

Separately, the idea that a broker should not also be an LIR has been
raised, and I am genuinely curious why this is considered a problem.  We are
an LIR because we feel it give us better insight and ability to provide
guidance to our clients as well as access to the RIPE Transfer Listing
Service, which we rarely use.  As an LIR we can also sponsor PI blocks for
our clients who need that service. For the smallest of customers, the least
expensive route is to purchase a PI /24 and sponsorship. This avoids
expensive RIPE membership and many small enterprises are buying their own
blocks due to problems getting or keeping blocks from their upstreams, and
to facilitate ISP shopping without renumbering.

Regards,
Mike Burns