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[members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List
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Mike Burns
mike at iptrading.com
Fri Dec 20 16:29:56 CET 2019
"Conversely, it's clear that some brokers are still spamming RIPE Database contacts. Is this the only problem we are seeking to eliminate here, or are there others? Could an updated set of terms or a stricter approach by the RIPE NCC help to mitigate this? Before the board makes its decision, we would like to hear your thoughts on this list." Hello, I think it's worth considering that removing the broker list will not remove the spam problem; it might have the opposite effect. I am not sure how the presence of the list corresponds with a broker's ability to spam. The transfer logs are public, Whois contacts are public, how is the broker list connected? Separately, the idea that a broker should not also be an LIR has been raised, and I am genuinely curious why this is considered a problem. We are an LIR because we feel it give us better insight and ability to provide guidance to our clients as well as access to the RIPE Transfer Listing Service, which we rarely use. As an LIR we can also sponsor PI blocks for our clients who need that service. For the smallest of customers, the least expensive route is to purchase a PI /24 and sponsorship. This avoids expensive RIPE membership and many small enterprises are buying their own blocks due to problems getting or keeping blocks from their upstreams, and to facilitate ISP shopping without renumbering. Regards, Mike Burns
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