[members-discuss] RIPE forces us to pay the bill unfairly

The only reason why it is able to open 5 LIRs is because the community
wants to know who really owns them; instead of some fake companies.

However, this doesn’t mean that you should do that even if you can as the
last /22 shouldn’t be treated as a cheaper alternative to getting more
space than the IPv4 market.



On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 08:28 Sebastian Wiesinger <
sebastian.wiesinger at noris.net> wrote:

> * olena.dmytrenko at bignet.ua <olena.dmytrenko at bignet.ua> [2018-07-09
> 07:46]:
> > We got a problem!
> > We want to share it with you to find out your opinion on this matter.
> > We are transferring our network to other company. The transfer is
> approved.
> > As policy prescribed, you have to pay the annual fee. For today these
> are the third quartal and the forth.
> > But RIPE forces us to pay the bill for the first quartal, however our
> LIR was opened later in the second one. ( in APRIL 2018).
> > We would like to see and discuss the rules, where it is prescribed what
> to pay in such cases.
> > Where we can read the regulation that you need to pay an annual fee for
> the quarters in which Lir did not even exist.
>
>
> Here is the rule, I think this is pretty clear:
>
>
> https://www.ripe.net/participate/member-support/payment/billing-procedure-and-fee-schedule-2018#fees-for-transferring-resources
>
> "A member must pay the full annual service fee for each LIR account(s)
> held before they can transfer resources or close their LIR account(s).
> Only when the full annual service fee for every LIR account has been
> paid can the transfer or closure take place."
>
>
> > Furthermore, we have 5 more LIRs on one company.  Is it fare to be
> > forced to pay all annual invoices on all Lirs, before the transfer
> > one part of the network from 1 LIR?
>
> Yes. See the rule above. It is meant to discourage opening LIRs simply
> to get IPv4 space. This is exactly how it is supposed to work.
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastian
>
>
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