[members-discuss] RIPE forces us to pay the bill unfairly

* olena.dmytrenko at bignet.ua <olena.dmytrenko at bignet.ua> [2018-07-09 07:46]:
> We got a problem! 
> We want to share it with you to find out your opinion on this matter.
> We are transferring our network to other company. The transfer is approved.
> As policy prescribed, you have to pay the annual fee. For today these are the third quartal and the forth.
> But RIPE forces us to pay the bill for the first quartal, however our LIR was opened later in the second one. ( in APRIL 2018).
> We would like to see and discuss the rules, where it is prescribed what to pay in such cases.
> Where we can read the regulation that you need to pay an annual fee for the quarters in which Lir did not even exist.


Here is the rule, I think this is pretty clear:

https://www.ripe.net/participate/member-support/payment/billing-procedure-and-fee-schedule-2018#fees-for-transferring-resources

"A member must pay the full annual service fee for each LIR account(s)
held before they can transfer resources or close their LIR account(s).
Only when the full annual service fee for every LIR account has been
paid can the transfer or closure take place."


> Furthermore, we have 5 more LIRs on one company.  Is it fare to be
> forced to pay all annual invoices on all Lirs, before the transfer
> one part of the network from 1 LIR?

Yes. See the rule above. It is meant to discourage opening LIRs simply
to get IPv4 space. This is exactly how it is supposed to work.

Regards

Sebastian


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