[members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse

Thu Sep 7 10:13:41 CEST 2017

Which is, to a certain extent, a requirement.
But that's not the real issue, I don't mind people knowing my name, I just
want a world where NOC and Abuse contacts aren't be spammed with sales
pitches constantly.

On 7 Sep 2017 10:05 am, "Christoffer Hansen" <cdh at nianet.dk> wrote:

> If individual employees contact details are being readily exposed
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Only if you have entered them in the RIPE DB on objects. (fx. person,
abuse, update etc.)

On 9/5/2017 13:40, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
> How does the RIPE DB and its current protections (or lack of them) work
> within the framework of GDPR?
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> If individual employees contact details are being readily exposed then
> that could be a serious problem for both us as a LIR and for RIPE.
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> Regards
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> *From: *members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of
> Tim Armstrong <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday 5 September 2017 at 09:52
> *To: *Catalin Dominte <catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk>
> *Cc: *"members-discuss at ripe.net" <members-discuss at ripe.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse
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> I agree entirely.
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> Yes the list of sales contact ones are quite funny.
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> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Catalin Dominte
> <catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk <mailto:catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk>>
> wrote:
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>     If RIPE decide to use forms (mainly for abuse reporting), that would
>     be great. Actual email addresses for peering purposes can be gleaned
>     from PeeringDB if one has an account there.
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>     My recent favourite email I get on the ripe addresses is if I am
>     interested in a list of brand new contacts for C level management
>     from various industries. Reported them all as spam, but they never
>     stop.
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>     *Catalin Dominte*
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>     On 5 September 2017 at 09:40:56, Telecoms (telco at intrinsec.com
>     <mailto:telco at intrinsec.com>) wrote:
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>         There is a new comment in the ticket submitted by Tim Armstrong
>         to Cloud Temple - Cloud Operations
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>         Comment added by : Tim Armstrong
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>         Comment Content:
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>         And while we are at it, perhaps we could do something about all
>         the freaking Bots on this mailing list? I just got eight
>         auto-replies!
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>             On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Tim Armstrong
>             <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com
>             <mailto:t.armstrong at nerdalize.com>> wrote:
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>                 Hi all,
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>                 Every so often this issue crops up it's ugly head again,
>                 RIPE DB abuse is a real problem.
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>                 Yet again we are receiving unsolicited sales pitches via
>                 an e-mail address we only use for the contact details in
>                 our RIPE DB entries.
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>                 We've all seen it; people offering to buy IPv4 blocks,
>                 people offering to sell IPv4 blocks, DDoS filtering,
>                 etc. It's a plague of poorly constructed pitches for
>                 services none of us want to waste time reading about. If
>                 we want such products, we all know how find them, and
>                 yet the e-mails don't stop coming.
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>                 I am not one for publicly shaming other members of the
>                 community, but if it doesn't stop, I don't see how I
>                 have a choice. They need to learn that database abuse
>                 leads to boycott.
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>                 The database is an operations tool for de-bugging and
>                 reporting issues & abuse; not a sales team's list of
>                 "potential leads".
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>                 I hate to bring this subject up again, but is there
>                 really nothing structural we can do about this?
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>                 At a minimum we could occlude e-mail addresses from the
>                 public DB, instead having public complaint submitted via
>                 a webform on the NCC website, requiring the uninitiated
>                 to realise this is an abuse / complaint contact, not a
>                 sales opportunity.
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>                 Thanks,
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>                 Tim.
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