[members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse

PLEASE ! NOT ! AGAIN !


On 05.09.2017 10:58, Gadi Rapaport wrote:
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> Me too please!!!!!!
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> Catalin Dominte <catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk 
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> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse
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> Same here.
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> Thanks.
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> *De :*members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] *De la 
> part de* R. van Laake
> *Envoyé :* mardi 5 septembre 2017 10:54
> *À :* Tim Armstrong; Catalin Dominte
> *Cc :* members-discuss at ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>
> *Objet :* Re: [members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse
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> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GET ME OFF THIS RECIPIENTS LIST.
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> I DIDN’T ASK FOR IT, I HAVE WORK TO DO AND DON’T NEED THIS DISTRACTION
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> *From:*members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Armstrong
> *Sent:* dinsdag 5 september 2017 10:52
> *To:* Catalin Dominte
> *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse
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> I agree entirely.
>
> Yes the list of sales contact ones are quite funny.
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> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Catalin Dominte 
> <catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk 
> <mailto:catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk>> wrote:
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> If RIPE decide to use forms (mainly for abuse reporting), that would 
> be great. Actual email addresses for peering purposes can be gleaned 
> from PeeringDB if one has an account there.
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> My recent favourite email I get on the ripe addresses is if I am 
> interested in a list of brand new contacts for C level management from 
> various industries. Reported them all as spam, but they never stop.
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> On 5 September 2017 at 09:40:56, Telecoms (telco at intrinsec.com 
> <mailto:telco at intrinsec.com>) wrote:
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>     There is a new comment in the ticket submitted by Tim Armstrong to
>     Cloud Temple - Cloud Operations
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>     Comment added by : Tim Armstrong
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>     Comment Content:
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>     And while we are at it, perhaps we could do something about all
>     the freaking Bots on this mailing list? I just got eight auto-replies!
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>         On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Tim Armstrong
>         <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com <mailto:t.armstrong at nerdalize.com>>
>         wrote:
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>             Hi all,
>
>             Every so often this issue crops up it's ugly head again,
>             RIPE DB abuse is a real problem.
>
>             Yet again we are receiving unsolicited sales pitches via
>             an e-mail address we only use for the contact details in
>             our RIPE DB entries.
>
>             We've all seen it; people offering to buy IPv4 blocks,
>             people offering to sell IPv4 blocks, DDoS filtering, etc.
>             It's a plague of poorly constructed pitches for services
>             none of us want to waste time reading about. If we want
>             such products, we all know how find them, and yet the
>             e-mails don't stop coming.
>
>             I am not one for publicly shaming other members of the
>             community, but if it doesn't stop, I don't see how I have
>             a choice. They need to learn that database abuse leads to
>             boycott.
>
>             The database is an operations tool for de-bugging and
>             reporting issues & abuse; not a sales team's list of
>             "potential leads".
>
>             I hate to bring this subject up again, but is there really
>             nothing structural we can do about this?
>
>             At a minimum we could occlude e-mail addresses from the
>             public DB, instead having public complaint submitted via a
>             webform on the NCC website, requiring the uninitiated to
>             realise this is an abuse / complaint contact, not a sales
>             opportunity.
>
>             Thanks,
>
>             Tim.
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>             *Tim Armstrong***Dark Lord of Network Operations+31 6 175 444 72
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>         *Tim Armstrong *Dark Lord of Network Operations +31 6 175 444 72
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