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Nigel Titley
nigel at titley.com
Thu Sep 22 22:24:12 CEST 2016
Daniel Thanks, that's a good data point to have. On 22/09/16 19:16, Daniel Pearson wrote: > Nigel, > > Thanks for the information. I've read a lot of the plan and have a > couple of questions if you feel inclined to provide some more insight. > > According to what I can see, the budget is split into several parts for > training. A general 'overall' training budget and then a much smaller > budget for IPv6 Support. Based on this document in particular, it's hard > to say exactly how much of the larger training budget is spent > specifically on IPv6, but it does show that the dedicated "IPv6 Support" > budget is quite small, roughly 171,000 EUR. > It seems primarily tied to MENOG sponsored IPv6 Roadshows. The rest > seems split into the ENOG region, mostly with past efforts being to > cross train folks with the idea that they will help present more road > shows. The MENOG and ENOG regions are where we concentrate a lot of the effort partly because we get a lot of support from governmental organisations there and also because they are, mainly, the regions which have less penetration of IPv6. We've been doing IPv6 training in Western Europe for a long time but we've found that the issue there isn't so much a training one but an unwillingness to invest resources in pushing IPv6. In a sense, the rising price of IPv4 is helping because it is at last becoming apparent to those holding the budgets that hanging onto IPv4 has a cost, and it's one that is rising as time goes by. > The final split in the budget is the online resources for IPv6. > > Can you say how much of the training budget applies to IPv6 in general? Offhand, I don't know but I can get the information. > > Any plans to expand the IPv6 roadshows outside of ENOG and MENOG? If that's what the members want then we'll do it. > My personal opinion is the budget of 171,000 EUR for IPv6 Support, for > the size of RIPE, is quite small. I would be interested to see that > increased quite a bit to allow for more online resources, training, > webinars and potentially even access to professionals that, while not > providing support per say, could help guide folks unfamiliar with some > of the IPv6 pitfalls in the right direction. Again, thanks for your input. We can certainly look at adding more Ipv6 training to the activity plan. All the best Nigel > Daniel~ > > On 09/22/2016 12:47 PM, Nigel Titley wrote: >> Daniel (and others) >> >> On 22/09/16 18:32, Daniel Pearson wrote: >>> Tim, >>> >>> I would say you get a gold star for recommending something feasible and >>> realistic. RIPE already had a budget excess of over 5 Mil EUR last year. >>> I would not be opposed if RIPE was tasked with creating a department to >>> help with IPv6 education through programs like that. >> Could I respectfully suggest that you take a look at the RIPE NCC >> activity plan which tells you exactly on what and how much the RIPE NCC >> is planning to spend next year. It already spends a lot on outreach and >> it continues to spend a lot on IPv6 education. It's been doing this for >> many, many years. Start by looking at last year's plan, this year's will >> be out very soon. >> >> Have a look and comment on it. >> >> All the best >> >> Nigel >> Chairman RIPE NCC Board >> >> ---- >> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the >> general page: >> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ >> >> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From >> here, you can add or remove addresses. > > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the > general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From > here, you can add or remove addresses. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20160922/2b03932e/attachment.sig>
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