[members-discuss] Spam from Cyprian Nica / IP Broker Limited (Re: Inquiry regarding availability for subnet x.x.x.0 - y.y.y.255

Is the offer to purchase perceieved unused IPv4 address unsolicited
marketing? Surely not. The guy simply made an offer to purchase.

I can't believe how many people are on their high horses over this. Delete
the email and move on. We're meant to be professionals. Surely gone are our
keyboard warrior days?

On 10 Oct 2016 7:35 p.m., "Arjan van der Oest" <
Arjan.vanderOest at voiceworks.com> wrote:

> On 10 Oct 2016, at 20:31, Ciprian Nica <office at ip-broker.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thank you Tim and the others that were not so harsh against my method. As
> I have promised, I'm not doing this on a regular basis and I think that you
> are right, whoever has a problem with my e-mails, just send a complain.
> This is not the place to start a fight unless you have a personal problem
> with me or with my business.
>
>
> It's not the emails you sent that are the real problem (at least here in
> NL it's legal), it's the abuse of the RIPE-db that is the real problem:
>
> % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
> % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf
>
> Especially 4.4: "Users may not use the RIPE Database or the data contained
> therein for advertising, direct marketing, marketing research or similar
> purposes"
>
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> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Arjan van der Oest
> Lead Mobile Engineer
>
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>
> On 10 Oct 2016, at 20:31, Ciprian Nica <office at ip-broker.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thank you Tim and the others that were not so harsh against my method. As
> I have promised, I'm not doing this on a regular basis and I think that you
> are right, whoever has a problem with my e-mails, just send a complain.
> This is not the place to start a fight unless you have a personal problem
> with me or with my business.
>
> I will be in Madrid for RIPE73 and anyone that has to say anything, I'll
> be available over there. Let's not escalate this unnecessarily.
>
> Have a nice week,
> Ciprian
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Tim Armstrong <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Seriously chill out, so they emailed you, big deal!
>> Sure this kind of behaviour is to be discouraged, but you are taking this
>> to seriously, if you feel that strongly just report it through RIPE's
>> standard abuse pathway and stop spamming this list with your childish
>> complaint.
>>
>> IMHO this isn't even spam, it constitutes unwelcome solicitation, not
>> advertising.
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>> On 10 Oct 2016 7:47 p.m., "Gert Doering" <gert at space.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 06:12:05PM +0300, Ciprian Nica wrote:
>>> > First of all, I have not used the ripe database contact info to send
>>> > marketing, advertising or anything to promote a service or product.
>>>
>>> You have.  I have received your mail to an address that is exclusively
>>> used in the RIPE database (as a notify: in our maintainers).  There is
>>> no other place that would make a connection between the /22 in question
>>> and *that* mail address.
>>>
>>> Gert Doering
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