[members-discuss] Spam from Cyprian Nica / IP Broker Limited (Re: Inquiry regarding availability for subnet x.x.x.0 - y.y.y.255
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Nick Hilliard
nick at netability.ie
Mon Oct 10 17:20:29 CEST 2016
Cyprian, You used a specific email address that has only ever been used by me in the RIPE database. If you have used it, and particularly if you have used it in association with a specific range of RIPE NCC-assigned ipv4 addresses, it means that this information has been pulled either directly or indirectly from the RIPE database. Nick > Ciprian Nica <mailto:office at ip-broker.uk> > 10 October 2016 at 16:12 > Hi Nick, > > First of all, I have not used the ripe database contact info to send > marketing, advertising or anything to promote a service or product. > > I apologize to anyone that was disturbed by my e-mail. I have tried > not to send any duplicates and limited as much as possible any > discomfort. I'm not doing this on a regular basis and probably you've > never got an e-mail from me before. > > There are 43 million IP addresses which are allocated in RIPE region > and are not announced in the global BGP table. Of course there are > some which are not announced on purpose and to those I apologize > again. But there are many IP addresses which are not in use and the > only way to get in touch with the users is by contacting them using > obviously publicly available contact information. > > I have e-mailed contacts for specific subnets that were checked to be > not advertised. How else should we get the IPs to the market ? There's > no tool provided by RIPE or any other solution to push this huge > amount to the market. Maybe some are concerned that bringing up the > unused space will lower the prices. Well, I am not supporting those > who sit on huge amount of IPs and seek prices in the 10+ EUR range. I > really hope IPv6 will move quicker and in a couple of years no IPv4 > will have value so while there is still some demand, we're doing our > best to find the supply, to dig it up to the surface. > > So, once again at this moment there are over 43 million IPs in the > RIPE region only that are not advertised in the BGP table. The total > amount of IPs transferred over the past 4 years in the RIPE region is > ~27 million. > > I apologize if my method was too extreme and have upset some people > but I promise not to bother you again. Most likely there are people > who just sit on the resources and don't care about other's needs. We > can't seem to be able to lift their butts off them. > > Have a nice week, > Ciprian > > > > > Nick Hilliard <mailto:nick at netability.ie> > 10 October 2016 at 15:20 > I've received several copies of the template email below about several > different address ranges, all sent to email addresses culled from the > RIPE Database. They all appear to originate from Cyprian Nica / IP > Broker Ltd. > > In order to be listed as an IP broker on the RIPE web site, it is > necessary to sign the "Recognised IPv4 Transfer Broker Agreement". This > includes the following text: > >> The Broker shall adhere to the relevant RIPE Policies and RIPE NCC >> procedural documents, [...] > > The RIPE Database T&Cs include the following text: > >> Users may not use the RIPE Database or the data contained therein for >> advertising, direct marketing, marketing research or similar purposes. > > Could the RIPE NCC kindly confirm whether or not spamming contact email > address gleaned from the RIPE DB is a violation of the Recognised IPv4 > Transfer Broker Agreement? > > If this isn't a violation, could the Board consider specifically adding > an anti-spamming term into the IP Broker T&Cs listing? > > Nick > > Ciprian Nica wrote: >> Dear Sirs, >> >> My name is Ciprian Nica and I'm the CEO of IP Broker Ltd, one of the >> first IPv4 Address brokers in the RIPE region. I am contacting you >> regarding the block of 256 IPv4 addresses (from x.x.x.0 to >> 'y.y.y.255') which according to our data seems to be not in use as >> they are not announced in the global BGP table. >> >> If you no longer need these IP addresses then it is a good moment to >> sell them. The global IPv6 deployment rate is around 15% while in USA >> is around 30% so in a couple of years IPv4 might become worthless >> again. >> >> Of course that besides the subnet mentioned above there might be some >> other blocks that you might not need. Please let us know all the >> blocks of IP addresses that you no longer need and we will do our >> best to sell them in a fast and secure way. > >> Thank you, >> Ciprian Nica >> CEO >> IP Broker Limited >> t: +44 20 339 339 91 >> > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20161010/adbf07f8/attachment.html>
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