[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple LIR Accounts - Please Discuss

2. I think that’s a bit extreme, but I get the idea. I would rather see it this way:
If a LIR with a /22 merges with another LIR with a /22, it’s not reasonable to ask them to give it back as they are LIRs from similar size (or they can be asked to demonstrate that they need both).
If a LIR with a /22 is bought by another LIR with a /19, it’s reasonable to « ask »  them to give back the /22 in the next 6-12 months as they probably have the space left to renumber.

The rule could be: if the biggest LIR has 4 or 8 times more address space than the smaller LIR, the smallest has to return address space under X months.

Exception:  if a LIR with several /16s or bigger merges with another similar-sized LIR, the whole thing should be audited in order to see how many address space they can return.

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> Le 17 févr. 2016 à 18:27, Gunnar Guðvarðarson <gunni at wave.is> a écrit :
> 
> 1. Yes
> 2. Make it so that any /22 allocated from "the last /8" is
> non-transferrible if allocated after a specific date, ever.
> 
> That way, if a LIR requests a /22 the subnet is bound to that LIR, if
> the LIR then wants to merge with another company it must return the
> /22.
> 
> That way any abuse becomes a very expensive thing to maintain.
> 
> And of course require a working IPv6 allocation before assigning
> anything from IPv4.
> 
> ----
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> The RIPE NCC Executive Board would like to ask the membership to discuss
> the issue of RIPE NCC members opening additional LIR accounts.
> 
> There were comments at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) in November
> 2015 that members having the ability to open additional LIR accounts,
> each of which can request a /22 of IPv4 address space, may run against
> the spirit of the last /8 policy. In light of this, the Board decided to
> temporarily suspend the ability of RIPE NCC members to open additional
> LIR accounts.
> 
> The RIPE NCC began to allocate IPv4 address space from the last /8
> policy on 14 September 2012. Since that time the RIPE NCC has allocated
> more than 8,600 /22s, yet there remains 0.94 of a /8 still in the pool.
> 
> ACTION REQUIRED:
> The Board asks the membership to provide their opinion on and discuss
> the following points:
> 
> 1. Is the activity of members opening additional LIR accounts a problem
> that must be prevented?
> 
> 2. If this activity is a problem that must be prevented, what action
> should the RIPE NCC take to attempt its prevention?
> 
> Statistics pertinent to this discussion are available in this article on
> RIPE Labs:
> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/laura_cobley/ripe-ncc-members-and-multiple-lir-accounts?pk_campaign=members&pk_kwd=list-ncc
> 
> The Board asks that members discuss this issue on the Members Discuss
> mailing list .
> 
> The Board will monitor the discussion and will review it at the next
> Executive Board Meeting on 31 March 2016. Depending on the outcome of
> that meeting, the Board may propose a resolution for members to vote on
> at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2016.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Nigel Titley
> RIPE NCC Executive Board
> 
> ~ Gunnar
> 
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