[members-discuss] FW: remove from disscusion email list

Seriously? Just because the users are too stupid to unsubscribe themselves?

Unsubscribing does work, you just have to RTFM:

https://www.ripe.net/participate/member-support/info/membership-mailing-lists/subscribing-to-members-discuss

"Changes to mailing list subscriptions are processed twice daily. As 
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Am 17.02.2016 um 17:03 schrieb iODC Hostmaster:
> Moved to Spamhaus and SNDS - thats how it concerns users, who do not wish to be on the list, nor ever signed up to the list.
> Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
> NOC
>
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>
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> Fra: Dominik Nowacki [mailto:dominik at clouvider.co.uk]
> Sendt: 17. februar 2016 17:02
> Til: iODC Hostmaster <hostmaster at iodc.dk>; Rui Magalhães <rmagalhaes at estorilsoldigital.com>; members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net
> Cc: new-lir at ripe.net; hostmaster at ripe.net; members-discuss at ripe.net
> Emne: RE: [members-discuss] FW: remove from disscusion email list
>
> And this concerns other users of this list how ?
>
> Contact RIPE via their contact form and complain about the issue instead of making a mess on the mailing list that I guess gets delivered to several thousand people!
>
> With Kind Regards,
> Dominik Nowacki
>
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> From: iODC Hostmaster [mailto:hostmaster at iodc.dk]
> Sent: 17 February 2016 15:59
> To: Dominik Nowacki <dominik at clouvider.co.uk<mailto:dominik at clouvider.co.uk>>; Rui Magalhães <rmagalhaes at estorilsoldigital.com<mailto:rmagalhaes at estorilsoldigital.com>>; members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>
> Cc: new-lir at ripe.net<mailto:new-lir at ripe.net>; hostmaster at ripe.net<mailto:hostmaster at ripe.net>; members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>
> Subject: SV: [members-discuss] FW: remove from disscusion email list
>
> Please understand, that neither works.
> Unsubscription from LIR portal and by email does not work - we are still receiving.
>
> Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
> NOC
>
> [iODC Logo]
> In & Outbound Datacenter
> Arnold Nielsens Boulevard 62B, 2650 Hvidovre, Danmark
> Telefon: 6913 6920, Vagt: 6913 6940
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>
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> Fra: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] På vegne af Dominik Nowacki
> Sendt: 17. februar 2016 16:56
> Til: Rui Magalhães <rmagalhaes at estorilsoldigital.com<mailto:rmagalhaes at estorilsoldigital.com>>; members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>
> Cc: new-lir at ripe.net<mailto:new-lir at ripe.net>; hostmaster at ripe.net<mailto:hostmaster at ripe.net>; members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>
> Emne: Re: [members-discuss] FW: remove from disscusion email list
>
> You guys are all aware that you can (and have to) unsubscribe yourself the same way you've subscribed ?
>
> Let me quote for you:
>
> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss
> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page:
> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/
>
> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.
>
>
>
> With Kind Regards,
> Dominik Nowacki
>
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> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Rui Magalhães
> Sent: 17 February 2016 15:47
> To: members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>
> Cc: new-lir at ripe.net<mailto:new-lir at ripe.net>; members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>; hostmaster at ripe.net<mailto:hostmaster at ripe.net>
> Subject: [members-discuss] FW: remove from disscusion email list
>
> Can you kindly remove me from this list and discussion.
> Thanks you
>
> Rui Magalhães
>
> Estoril Sol Digital
>
> M (ES): +34 619 618 792
> M (PT): +351 917 195 135
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> E-mail: rmagalhaes at estorilsoldigital.com<mailto:rmagalhaes at estorilsoldigital.com>
> Skype: rmmaga
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> http://es.linkedin.com/in/rmmaga/
>
>
> From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>> on behalf of Jane Davison <jane.davison at foehn.co.uk<mailto:jane.davison at foehn.co.uk>>
> Date: Wednesday 17 February 2016 at 15:44
> To: Omar Dallah <o.dallah at dot-jo.com<mailto:o.dallah at dot-jo.com>>, "members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>" <members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>>, 'RIPE NCC Hostmaster' <hostmaster at ripe.net<mailto:hostmaster at ripe.net>>, 'RIPE NCC LIR Startup Coordinator' <new-lir at ripe.net<mailto:new-lir at ripe.net>>
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] remove from disscusion email list
>
> Dears,
>
> Yes please can you remove me as well for the discussion email list.
>
> I have tried to remove and still receiving many emails which is blocking my inbox.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Jane
>
> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Omar Dallah
> Sent: 17 February 2016 15:42
> To: members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>; 'RIPE NCC Hostmaster'; 'RIPE NCC LIR Startup Coordinator'
> Subject: [members-discuss] remove from disscusion email list
>
> Dears,
>
> Please remove my email from the discussion email list. BTW I removed my email by LIR portal but still receiving the discussion emails. Please help.
>
> Regards,
> Omar Dallah
>
> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Matthijs van Seventer
> Sent: 17 February 2016 16:58
> To: BOGDAN Orasanu; 'Markus'; members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>; Claudiu Foleanu
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [comms] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple
>
> Hello all,
>
> LIR's that don't use IPv4 adresses should be able to return them. The only parties that will win otherwise are brokers with ridiculous prices.
>
> Matthijs
>
> Van: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] Namens BOGDAN Orasanu
> Verzonden: woensdag 17 februari 2016 15:53
> Aan: 'Markus' <universe at truemetal.org<mailto:universe at truemetal.org>>; members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>; Claudiu Foleanu <claudiu.foleanu at thorpanel.com<mailto:claudiu.foleanu at thorpanel.com>>
> Onderwerp: Re: [members-discuss] [comms] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> I administer such a small ISP, that had to return somehow by force half of the allocated IP addreses. This way of doing bussiness should not be encouraged by RIPE, i instead of RIPE will ask a huge LIR that managed milions of IP addresses how come they were able to transfer maybe half of them ? They were only reserved and not used ? Or eliberated of usage thtought some means in order to capitalise ? LIR should be able to manage respurces only toward end user and not among LIRs exept and ISP that want to manage their own address space and not for trade. The resource belongs to public not to lirs.
>
> Best regards,
> Bogdan Orasanu
> Senior Network Administrator
> SC Expert Net SRL
>
> Sent from my Sony Xperia(tm) smartphone
>
>
> ---- Claudiu Foleanu wrote ----
>
> Hi Markus,
>
> The lir send`s a document to the company in wich says "As per end user
> contract signed you have 3 months to stop using resources" and after this
> the resources are sold.
> It happend to a lot (and i do mean a lot) of companies in Romania. I think
> that Romania is number one in number of resources (ipv4 address space) sold.
> And as i said in my previous email most of them have been in use. I have a
> /22 witch is in IRAN now. Sold to an Iranian telecom company by the lir. I
> have not received any previous notification. Our callcenter just started
> getting calls about internet not working. We did not imagine that someone
> will do something like this.
> We addressed this issue with ripe-ncc at that time and the reply was find a
> new lir we cannot help in the matter.
> We should ask a report for tickets created from Romania regarding address
> space from Romania with the same issue.
>
> Best regards,
> Claudiu Foleanu
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>] On Behalf Of
> Markus
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:37 PM
> To: members-discuss at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>; Claudiu Foleanu
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [comms] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC
> Members and Multiple
>
> Hi Claudiu,
>
> Am 17.02.2016<tel:17.02.2016> um 15:26 schrieb Claudiu Foleanu:
>> No it`s not bad to sell ip`s. It`s bad that the people are abusing the
>> system. It`s bad that small companies that had a /22 a /24 etc.. have
>> the resources allocated taken away, and sold for profit.
> [...]
>
> can you elaborate on how these small companies have resources taken away
> from them? I can't imagine how that works. Who forces these companies to
> give their resources up?
>
> I've noticed that a company called "IPv4 Management SRL" (www.ip.ro<http://www.ip.ro>) from
> your country is selling a lot of smaller IPv4 blocks like all the time. It
> seems like they are the predominant seller in the RIPE market judging from
> <https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/tra
> nsfers/ipv4/ipv4-transfer-statistics>
>
> Do they have something to do with what you described?
>
> Cheers
> Markus
>
>
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