[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple LIR Accounts - Please Discuss

So RIPE has suspend this action since the 19th of November 2015 and asks should it allow it in General Meeting on the May 31st, doesn't it? 

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17.02.2016, 16:28, "Markus" <universe at truemetal.org>:
> Am 16.02.2016 um 13:17 schrieb David Treanor:
>>>       1. Is the activity of members opening additional LIR accounts a
>>>       problem
>>>       that must be prevented?
>>
>>  The rapid increase in new account creation seems to indicate that this is being used to abuse the rules. Yes it must be prevented.
>
> +1
>
> I would like to bring to everyones attention that it's obviously already
> possible to create multiple LIRs under the same company:
>
> # wget http://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/stats/membership/alloclist.txt
> # cat alloclist.txt | grep ^[a-z][a-z]. | cut -b 1-6 | uniq -c | sort -rn
>
>    36 uk.ngs
> ...
>    10 ae.hax
>
> Meaning: If you look at
> http://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/stats/membership/alloclist.txt in your browser
> you'll find that "HAX CONSULTANCY DMCC" (HAX as in hack(s)...) has
> opened 10 LIRs, and "Next Global Services LP" has opened a whopping 36
> LIRs. Each has a /22 of course.
>
> HAX uses a gmail address as their LIR address. :-)
> https://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/data/ae.hax201.html
>
> NGS is in control of 36.864 IPs. If they sell every IP at a bargain
> price of 6 EUR per IP they've earned 221.184 EUR. This guys costs were
> 72.000 EUR one-time (36 x 2.000 EUR setup fee) and 57.600 EUR for the
> first year (36 x 1.600 EUR) = 129.600 EUR.
>
> 221.184 EUR - 129.600 EUR = 91.584 EUR profit made out of thin air. Not bad!
>
> Really, RIPE?
>
> Cheers
> Markus
>
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