[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] Board Resolution to Suspend Creation of Multiple LIR Accounts

Hi Sascha, 

Don't take my word for it.. look at the data yourself. 

Here is an example... 

Have a look in the database ..  take for instance :  the ORG ID's that start with :  ORG-NGSL<insert number here between 3 to 27>-RIPE 

Each is their own LIR ... each has requested a /22 ...  23 entries in total ...   (http://pastebin.com/tZvm3WhU ) 

Created over time, requesting /22's for those various LIR's over multiple days.. ( If I look at the allocations dates of the /22's.. )  

This is a very clear example that it is not a single occurrence of creating just an LIR extra, but a planned and executed setup, that was not in line with the intent of the policy of the final /8 policy. 

The data is available for everyone to see and download, I'm not using any secret info, all this info comes from public sources ...  

Regards,
Erik Bais 

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Van: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] Namens Sascha Luck [ml]
Verzonden: donderdag 19 november 2015 17:34
Aan: members-discuss at ripe.net
Onderwerp: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] Board Resolution to Suspend Creation of Multiple LIR Accounts

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 05:19:42PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
>Very much related, this German article[1] claims that in November,
>2000 new LIRs were created, bringing the total amount of LIRs to
>almost 13,000. Can someone reconfirm with official numbers, please?

Actually, I would like to see some numbers too (LIR/entity
creation). So far we have nothing but the allegation of one
participant that a problem actually exists.

>I am _very_ much concerned about what that means for any potential
>future GMs if those, let's call them creative, people and LIRs vote en
>bloc.

If they are owned by the same entity, it already only has one
vote. If they are not, I cannot see how you could prevent them
from voting whichever way they see fit. 
And yes, with ~5-6% turn-out, bloc voting could have a
significant effect.

rgds,
Sascha Luck

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