[members-discuss] [Ticket#2015032801003375] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2016

> other then educating members to be caution and require what they need
Best education method is an invoice. I sure that all memebers know that
resurces are limited.

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28.03.2015 16:35 - Lu Heng wrote: And for unused resources, it has been
discussed heavily in the past as
well but we all know how it ends up in reality, other then educating
members to be caution and require what they need, I didn't think there
is a practical way to get these unused AS number back.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Lu Heng <h.lu at outsideheaven.com> wrote:
> Hi Gert:
>
> I fully understand your point, but I also feel a bit tried of seeing
> this huge "fee" discussion every year in which might be good idea just
> to leave it as it is.
>
> p.s. I still get ticket system reply while sending to member list, but
> seems it has getting much better(I only got 2 reply instead of 6 or 7
> replies in the past).
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 02:06:17PM +0100, Lu Heng wrote:
>>> I really think the RIPE fee are low enough that not even getting to be
>>> considered to be part of business expense(almost 100 euro/month, my
>>> personal gym member fee was like that), consider the large growth of
>>> member base for upcoming years and Ripe has no plan to increase staff
>>> as far as I hard from what said in last GM, the fee will keep
>>> dropping, I think most member would agree there is no real need to
>>> change it in term of financial reason.
>>
>> The total amount is actually not what Sander and I are upset about.
>>
>> It's really about the inherent conflict between the RIPE NCC being
>> tasked to implement community policy and at the same time being paid
>> by commercial members, which might have a different view on priorities,
>> and the NCC board being caught in between.
>>
>> (And to a certain part, frustration with the actual community that always
>> needs financial incentives to do the right thing, namely: return unused
>> resources, like AS numbers)
>>
>> Gert Doering
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