[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2016

Hi

I really think the RIPE fee are low enough that not even getting to be
considered to be part of business expense(almost 100 euro/month, my
personal gym member fee was like that), consider the large growth of
member base for upcoming years and Ripe has no plan to increase staff
as far as I hard from what said in last GM, the fee will keep
dropping, I think most member would agree there is no real need to
change it in term of financial reason.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 03:46:26PM +0300, Fahad AlShirawi wrote:
>> In this whole discussion the board hasn't said a single word.
>> They are listening to try and determine what's the way forward. It
>> surprises me that you would outright attack them like this? As
>> someone who chose to step down from that same exact board, I find
>> the accusation that they aren't trying to do what the membership
>> wants, and where aligned, what the community wants, a little hurtful.
>> My experience is that the board has never ignored.
>
> This is exactly the problem: the change in 2012 was based solely on what
> a (small, but loud) part of the *membership* wanted, and it was changing
> policy-relevant parts of the AGM without involving the AP *community* on
> this.
>
> I am fairly sure I said it back then as well: the way new charging
> schemes are usually presented ("take this or leave it") does not actually
> help - if people overall agree with the changes, like "it will get cheaper
> for me!", but still disagree with the policy implications, what are they
> supposed to vote for?
>
> My memory of specific events and "who said what" is getting muddled, though,
> and as I said, I was just too tired back in 2012 to put up a bigger fight.
>
> (The whole way all aspects of 2007-01 were handled by the board did not
> exactly feel like "gettings support" anyway - it more felt like "wading
> through morasses of subtle hindrance")
>
> Gert Doering
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