[members-discuss] Discussion on LIRs from Donetsk Area

Hi, Laura!
Wed, 01 Jul 2015 14:28:22 +0200:

LC> 2. There is no policy or procedure requiring a RIPE NCC member's postal
LC> address and phone number to be in the same country. Members can provide
LC> any contact information they choose as long as it can be used to
LC> contact them for administrative purposes.

We do not discuss here a phone number and postal address from the same
coutry
What we discuss here is that the mentioned cities Donetsk or Lugansk are
physically situated in Ukraine, not in Russia (as it mentioned in the
organisation's last two "address" rows)

organisation:   ORG-OISI2-RIPE
org-name:       "Center of Internet services in DNR"
org-type:       LIR
address:        Shevchenko str. 31
address:        83000
address:        Donetsk
address:        RUSSIAN FEDERATION

Also if you pay attention at the postal index, you can see that it is also
mentioned wrong, but defines exact city of Donetsk, situated in Ukraine
http://www.uaidx.com/byidx/83001/index
And "Shevchenko street" is a boulevard instead
Of course, they may say, that their office is in Donetsk city, Rostovskaya
district Russian Federation, but there are some disproofs:
1) postal indexes in RF are 6-digit, and the real postal code for that
address is 346332 http://russianpost.su/rostovskaya/donetsk2_russia/346332
2) I don't think their office is situated in this house: https://goo.gl/maps/lCbQI

LC> On 30/06/15 22:39, Samorukov,Alexey wrote:
 ??>> Thank you for a quick reply and comments. It is good that procedures
 ??>> were followed, however 2 questions are still unclear for me. 1. Did
 ??>> you made any efforts to validate submitted documents? As i mentioned -
 ??>> i cant find matched records in the registries. Does it mean that RIPE
 ??>> NCC will accept any possibly spoofed documents sent by members? 2. We
 ??>> should respect the privacy of others, and in this case I have a
 ??>> question regarding data quality in RIPE DB, not a membership
 ??>> info: inetnum:        185.106.128.0 - 185.106.131.255 netname:
 ??>> RU-DNR-20150626 organisation:   ORG-OISI2-RIPE org-name:       "Center
 ??>> of Internet services in DNR" org-type:       LIR address:
 ??>> Shevchenko str. 31 address:        83000 address:
 ??>> Donetsk address:        RUSSIAN FEDERATION With the high probability
 ??>> the contact data is invalid, and that mean the violation of section
 ??>> 4.0 of IPv4 allocation policy (RIPE-643): Only allocations and
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 ??>> as valid? Is there a procedure to report wrong contacts? ---- If you
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