[members-discuss] [address-policy-wg] [ncc-services-wg] Crimea papers

Hi all,

Glad to know about that but I think that wasnt the exactly question.

I think the quetion was:

Is RIPE acceping legal papers for Crimea from Russia, from Ukraine or 
from both countries?

If im wrong, please feel free to correct me!


-Daniel

El 2014-08-01 14:26, Athina Fragkouli escribió:
> Dear all,
> 
> The RIPE NCC follows the developments regarding sanctions adopted by 
> the
> European Union (EU) and reviews whether these sanctions restrict us 
> from
> providing services to network operators in certain regions or from
> having a contractual relationship with them.
> 
> Additionally, the RIPE NCC communicates with the Dutch authorities in
> order to clarify the details of the imposed sanctions and our 
> obligations.
> 
> So far, the EU sanctions adopted for the Crimea region (including the
> newest sanctions imposed by the EU by adopting the Council Regulation
> (EU) No 825/2014 of 30 July 2014) do not restrict us from doing any of
> the above.
> 
> http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2014.226.01.0002.01.ENG
> 
> In response to the concerns raised about this new Regulation, we have
> the following remarks:
> 
> According to Article 2c of the Regulation:
> 1. It shall be prohibited to sell, supply, transfer, export, directly 
> or
> indirectly, key equipment and technology as listed in _Annex_III_ to 
> any
> natural or legal person, entity or body in Crimea or Sevastopol or for
> use in Crimea or Sevastopol.
> 2. _Annex_III_ shall include key equipment and technology related to 
> the
> creation, acquisition or development of infrastructure in the 
> following
> sectors:
> ...
> (b) telecommunications;
> ...
> 3. It shall be prohibited to:
> (a) provide, directly or indirectly, technical assistance or brokering
> services related to the key equipment and technology listed in
> _Annex_III_, or related to the provision, manufacture, maintenance and
> use of items listed in _Annex_III_ to any natural or legal person,
> entity or body in Crimea or Sevastopol or for use in Crimea or 
> Sevastopol;
> ...
> 
> 
> So any prohibition is related to key equipment and technology as 
> listed
> in Annex III.
> 
> Annex III does not include anything related to the services we 
> provide,
> including the registration of Internet number resources.
> 
> We will continue to follow the development of any sanctions that 
> affect
> the provisioning of services in our region.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Athina Fragkouli
> Legal Counsel
> RIPE NCC
> 
> 
> 
> On 31/07/14 14:38, Sander Steffann wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I just got a question about how I meant this sentence:
>> 
>>> As a networking person 'related to the provision [...] and use of 
>>> items listed' does seem to include allocating number resources.
>> 
>> Just so that people don't misunderstand me: what I meant here is that 
>> the terminology used in this legal document has some specific meaning 
>> in the networking world. The meaning in a legal sense is probably 
>> completely different from what I as a networking engineer would read. 
>> Which is why I think we need to let a legal specialist comment on 
>> this. IANAL and my opinion doesn't mean anything here :)
>> 
>> Sorry for the confusion!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sander
>> 
>> 
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