[members-discuss] Marketing? Really?
Marcus Stoegbauer ms at man-da.de
Wed Oct 23 11:58:29 CEST 2013
On 23.10.2013, at 10:33, Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis at netnod.se> wrote: > > On 23 okt 2013, at 10:26, Daniel Stolpe <stolpe at resilans.se> wrote: >> >> This is more of a principal question than a financial one. With all new members there is probably room in the budget for a lot of not really important things at the same time as the membership fees go down. >> >> But in principle, the Réseaux IP Européens should be about European IP resources. > > > While I have some healthy skepticism against some RIPE NCC projects, and some of the ways they came to be, I think it's also fair to point out that the activities of the RIPE NCC is presented in the RIPE NCC activity plan, and that they as of the last one actually does a better job of breaking up costs in it. If you, me or anyone else have concerns or opinions on it, the right thing is to post comments on it when it is presented to members every year. Unfortunately the posting if normally comes with a very quiet mailing list. What we should all be doing during the year though is to compare activities to it and provide feedback on how well (or not) we think it's executed. That is partly why the NCC Services WG was created once upon a time, and we have (but rarely) had feedback in there on the performance of the activities of the NCC. This mailinglist is of course also a good channel, but I think we need to accept that the NCC does what is in the activity plan approved by it's members…. I fully agree with your points, the activity plan has become a lot better to read after the improvements in the last couple of years. But if I may be a bit overly pedantic for a second: the activity plan is not directly approved by the RIPE NCC members, but by the board. The members can discuss the activity plan in the general meeting but cannot vote on it. Marcus -- man-da.de GmbH, AS8365 Phone: +49 6151 16-71022 Mornewegstr. 30 Fax: +49 6151 16-71198 D-64293 Darmstadt e-mail: ms at man-da.de Geschäftsführer Marcus Stögbauer AG Darmstadt, HRB 94 84