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Daniel Ponticello
daniel.ponticello at redder.it
Thu Nov 21 17:30:45 CET 2013
+1 -- Daniel Ponticello Direttore Tecnico e CEO REDDER Telco T: 0444 1783651 | F: 0444 1783652 | daniel.ponticello at redder.it www.redder.it Il 21/11/2013 17:21, Christian Hoffmann [sfip84 Hosting und mehr UG] ha scritto: > Hey, > > am i the only person having the feeling that there is a private issue > going on here? > I mean come on, this guy has the bigger one, i am jalous too, but as > part of the RIPE NCC i think i really should trust the persons working > for the NCC. > For my understanding with every new allocation (and he has a lot..) > there is an Audit going on. > > Ok, he is announcing part of the networks outside the RIPE Area, but for > my understanding that is ok as long as the company and the core network > is based in Europe. Or did i missed something. > > > > Am 21.11.2013 17:12, schrieb William Weber: >> Hello together, >> >> So so so, finally he can reply - Hello there Mr. Lu, why were my >> previous contact tries ignored? >> >> I was in fact *AT YOUR ADDRESS* in Holland in 2012, nobody there - I >> would have someone sent to your address in China also, but that one is >> unclear described. >> >> >I wondering where you have the inaccurate income data about me >> personally and my private company as well >> I do not need to share any sources (what is this, the PLA?), all data >> was obtained legally in my country of residence (Slovenia) and Austria >> - I can not vouch for correctness but in the past it was usually near >> the expected. >> Not like your data is secret in the Netherlands. >>> making an criminal charge(corruption) to Ripe NCC, inaccurate publish >>> our private income data in the public space without supporting >>> evidence are very serious offense under european law, although my >>> lawyer strongly suggest him to write the letter, I insists my self to >>> write here just because I would appreciate member's understanding and >>> community's support. >> >> I'm not sure what gives you the idea that Dutch law would be >> applicable to me in Slovenia/Austaira (or at all, considering that >> Slovenia/Austria as per constitution cannot extradict citizens)? >> >> The statement of mine - *POSSIBLE* bribe - Is fully legal to make, >> even the implication of it would be - The RIPE ticket system is also >> not the public and neither is the mailing list, it is a closed system. >> >> You can sue me all you want, i have not much to loose currently, and >> once cleared move to Israel which does neither extradict nor care much >> about Europe. >> The Austrian police confiscated my hardware 2012 and 2013, the >> Austrian police investigates my financial transactions, the Polish >> police wants to see me in jail (and has an order for that), Hongkong >> authorities are not amused, my phones and internet is taped, i am >> being followed by the Austrian police. >> >> Just google my name and add "tor" and you get an image, you (and no >> one else) can threaten me with "law" anymore. >> >> I will reply more lenghty later, because even though the Austrian >> government does not like me they still send me invitations to >> broadband expansion forums and force me to attend and speak. >> >> Also, most here agree with me and you CLEARLY violate RIPE policies >> with the ARIN routing and others - So *you* are the one that should >> explain himself, not me. >> >> This is also a note: *The statements here are fully personal or >> statements of my own companies, not EDIS GmbH which is however one LIR >> i represent.* >> >> >> -- >> William Weber | RIPE: WW | LIR: >> william at william.si <mailto:william at william.si> >> >> >> >> >> Am 21.11.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "H.Lu" <h.lu at anytimechinese.com >> <mailto:h.lu at anytimechinese.com>>: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> We do not want to sue "anybody" here, sorry for mistyping English. >>> >>> we followed all the process in the Ripe region, and I personally >>> involved and participated in the Ripe policy development process, >>> >>> To inasset network: >>> >>> I wonder how you as single organization define "best interest of ripe >>> member" and justifying other member's IP usage? >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Lu >>> >>> On 2013-11-21, at 下午12:26, "Administration - [ inAsset Networks ]" >>> <admin at inasset.es <mailto:admin at inasset.es>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Good Afternoon (in Europe) >>>> >>>> Mr. Lu, we will follow your activities closely, and see if RIPE NCC >>>> takes action in the event the use of your assigned space is not in >>>> the best interest of its members. >>>> >>>> For now, we would like to know why you are announcing RIPE NCC space >>>> in ARIN. >>>> >>>> *Administration* - [ inAsset Networks ] >>>> >>>> El 21/11/2013, a las 16:02, H.Lu <h.lu at anytimechinese.com >>>> <mailto:h.lu at anytimechinese.com>> escribió: >>>> >>>>> Hi: >>>>> >>>>> What a surprise morning. >>>>> >>>>> I think it was talking about me and my company. >>>>> >>>>> To clarify few things, the justification process of our application >>>>> took very long in ripe NCC and I believe ripe NCC investigate about >>>>> us heavily in the major service we provided at the time of it being >>>>> justified. and corruption claim are very much inappreicate and I >>>>> would ask you apologizes to Ripe NCC. >>>>> >>>>> Me as individual as been actively involved in the ripe community in >>>>> past 5 years, and I believe most active member in the list knowing >>>>> me personally. >>>>> >>>>> I wondering where you have the inaccurate income data about me >>>>> personally and my private company as well. as it can not be obtain >>>>> legally and the data was not correct. I personally owing quite few >>>>> companies worldwide but they are all private companies I do not >>>>> feel the need to share our financial details publicly. >>>>> >>>>> Most part of our business are confidential so sorry we can not >>>>> provide more details here, like every request, Member base are >>>>> trusting Ripe NCC to make the right decision at the time of >>>>> application. That is how business really works, only Ripe NCC has >>>>> rights to getting into confidential area of member's business, >>>>> otherwise I believe every member would have to publish >>>>> every detail about their business to the public. >>>>> >>>>> And I would ask if you do have more questions for me, as long as >>>>> it is not confidential, I'd like to share my stories with you. >>>>> Please do not bother Ripe NCC for this matter any more. >>>>> >>>>> At this point, Ripe NCC are just a book keeper for its members and >>>>> Ripe community, they are not police force, if you do feel we have >>>>> some unlawful practice--thought I seriously doubt about it, please >>>>> contact related law enforcement and we are very happy to assist in >>>>> the matter with them. >>>>> >>>>> Last but not least, as I just had phone call with my lawyer, >>>>> making an criminal charge(corruption) to Ripe NCC, inaccurate >>>>> publish our private income data in the public space without >>>>> supporting evidence are very serious offense under european law, >>>>> although my lawyer strongly suggest him to write the letter, I >>>>> insists my self to write here just because I would appreciate >>>>> member's understanding and community's support. >>>>> >>>>> Let me know if you still have more questions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Lu >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-11-21, at 上午11:05, William Weber >>>>> <ripe-members-discussion at edisglobal.com >>>>> <mailto:ripe-members-discussion at edisglobal.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As RIPE seems to have decided that i can be ignored and no one >>>>>> needs to reply to me i make this public now as threatened to them >>>>>> before - See Dear Andrew, i don't care what you say - if you don't >>>>>> reply me with anything useful then i take steps to get others >>>>>> involved. >>>>>> This is not the first time i reported a LIR for evaluation and was >>>>>> ignored. >>>>>> >>>>>> I waited over a month for any reply and sent multiple follow up >>>>>> mails, no replies and the ticket is "open" in the Lirportal, now >>>>>> the last reply i got was again useless and without any interest >>>>>> (No Andrew, i cannot use the LIR<>LIR report form to report >>>>>> LIR<>RIPE, i can't even enter that there.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Theres some more fun to be had, here's a text i prepared before i >>>>>> sent my mail to RIPE after some investigations (which merely took >>>>>> 10 minutes time and a few calls to some associates) - Now, isn't >>>>>> that proof enough for an evaluation? >>>>>> I think so and the other LIRs i represent do as well, but make >>>>>> your own picture. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Today we follow an interesting 'ISP' which is based on a >>>>>> sole-trader in the Netherlands which managed to have >>>>>> RIPE/Afrinic/ARIN assign him IPv4 space totaling to a /8: >>>>>> >>>>>> His name is Heng Lu, also known as "OutsideHeaven" - >>>>>> http://outsideheaven.com <http://outsideheaven.com/> >>>>>> Seemingly based in the Netherlands Lu is of Chinese origin and >>>>>> does (as far as informations go) not live in Europe at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> First being a customer of OVH and having his IP space announced on >>>>>> OVHs AS now most space seems to be announced by Los Angeles based >>>>>> ISP Multacom (AS35916). >>>>>> >>>>>> A short view on the website shows that no real services are >>>>>> provided yet massive amounts of IPs are registered to him >>>>>> personally, him as sole trader or his companies at all RIRs: >>>>>> >>>>>> 154.80.0.0/12 - Afrinic - 1.048.574 IPs >>>>>> >>>>>> This is an AFRINIC net assigned to a company in the Seychelles >>>>>> ("Abacus (Seychelles) Limited"), the Person handle and mail shows >>>>>> the connection to OutsideHeaven. >>>>>> The network itself contains smaller assignments, all with the >>>>>> descr of "CloudInnovation infrastructure" and various countries >>>>>> set (AD, SD, YT….), most IPs are not announced at all and seem unused. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs >>>>>> >>>>>> A RIPE network from 2012.09 announced by Multacom in LAX outside >>>>>> of the RIPE region. >>>>>> Seems unused. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs >>>>>> >>>>>> RIPE network dating to 2012.07 (Just 3 months after the /15 was >>>>>> allocated, exactly the timeframe RIPE required a space to be used >>>>>> in to get a new one…), announced on OVH. >>>>>> >>>>>> 37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs >>>>>> >>>>>> Yet another RIPE network from 2012.04 (who can spell 'bribe'?) >>>>>> announced by OVH on France, unused as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 46.136.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs >>>>>> >>>>>> Allocated 2010.11 - Announced by a datacenter in the Netherlands, >>>>>> unused. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011.04 - Announced in LAX/Multacom. >>>>>> >>>>>> List (not complete, there is more smaller assignments on him): >>>>>> 154.80.0.0/12 - Afrinic - 1.048.574 IPs >>>>>> 185.2.48.0/22 - RIPE - 1024 IPs - 2012.09 >>>>>> 5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.09 >>>>>> 5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2012.07 >>>>>> 37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.04 >>>>>> 31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2011.04 >>>>>> 46.136.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2010.11 >>>>>> 178.236.224.0/20 - RIPE - 4096 IPs - 2010.06 >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> William Weber | RIPE Person: WW | LIR: at.edisgmbh (among others) >>>>>> william at edisglobal.com <mailto:william at edisglobal.com> | >>>>>> william at william.si <mailto:william at william.si> | http://edis.at >>>>>> <http://edis.at/> | http://as57169.net <http://as57169.net/> >>>>>> EDIS GmbH (AS57169) NOC >>>>>> Maribor, Slovenia >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *Von: *William Weber <william at edis.at <mailto:william at edis.at>> >>>>>>> *Betreff: **Aw: NCC#2013100726 Complaint against a LIR* >>>>>>> *Datum: *09. Oktober 2013 13:18:36 MESZ >>>>>>> *An: *Andrew de la Haye <andrew at ripe.net <mailto:andrew at ripe.net>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Andrew, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And who verified that these 2 analysts were not bribed... i know >>>>>>> guys buying /12s by bribing AFRINIC officials (in fact, the same >>>>>>> LIR as this mail is about "bought" space there also, >>>>>>> 154.80.0.0/12) and this isn't unheard in LACNIC/APNIC either, so >>>>>>> what tells me RIPE did/does not do the same... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, but this is not really any better now: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This guy "accidentally" sits in Amsterdam as well, not even far >>>>>>> from you, being Chinese(!) with barely 3000EUR income reports >>>>>>> filled 2012/2013 in the Netherlands for his BVs and his sole >>>>>>> trader status and has one of the largest total >>>>>>> allocations in the entire RIPE region? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How can he announce 2(!) *ENTIRE* /15 from an ARIN ASN in Los >>>>>>> Angeles while i and others got contacted by RIPE about a measly >>>>>>> /24 on an ARIN ASN? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why do his assignments make no sense, look auto generated and >>>>>>> never contain any end-user data? Why was this not verified at >>>>>>> add-alloc? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How does he use over a million IPs on a 100Mbit uplink to his >>>>>>> upstream provider? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This all is still very fishy and not really impressive... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards, >>>>>>> William Weber >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> EDIS GmbH >>>>>>> NOC >>>>>>> Hauptplatz 3/3 >>>>>>> 8010 Graz >>>>>>> Austria >>>>>>> Umsatzsteuer-ID: ATU 64124511 >>>>>>> Firmenbuch: FN 308697t >>>>>>> >>>>>>> phone: +43 316 827 500 >>>>>>> fax: +43 316 827 500 777 >>>>>>> http://www.edis.at <http://www.edis.at/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message was sent by EDIS GmbH, it is STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL >>>>>>> and is solely for the individual or organisation to whom it is >>>>>>> addressed. It may contain PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL >>>>>>> information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are >>>>>>> hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying >>>>>>> of this communication and its contents is strictly prohibited. >>>>>>> If you have received this communication in error, please notify >>>>>>> us at support at edis.at <mailto:support at edis.at> and delete it from >>>>>>> your computer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 08.10.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Andrew de la Haye <andrew at ripe.net >>>>>>> <mailto:andrew at ripe.net>>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear William, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We take your allegations very seriously. As such, your ticket >>>>>>>> has been escalated to me by Andrea Cima, manager of the RIPE >>>>>>>> NCC's Registration Services Department. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Before the RIPE NCC reached the last /8 of IPv4 address space, >>>>>>>> we implemented a temporarily enhanced allocation procedure to >>>>>>>> ensure a fair, neutral and well-documented IPv4 run-out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This procedure was communicated to our membership and community >>>>>>>> at meetings, via the Address Policy Working Group Mailing List, >>>>>>>> and via our website. You can find the complete description at: >>>>>>>> https://ripe65.ripe.net/presentations/204-last_slash_8_NCC_Services.pdf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Measures were taken to ensure our members' needs were filled on >>>>>>>> a first-come, first-served basis, and to ensure that we followed >>>>>>>> due diligence. Each request was evaluated by two IP Resource >>>>>>>> Analysts. Furthermore, all large requests (/15 PA or /18 PI or >>>>>>>> more) were rigorously evaluated by Registration Services >>>>>>>> Management, checked for policy compliance by our Policy >>>>>>>> Development Officer, and were finally approved by two RIPE NCC >>>>>>>> Senior Managers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The IPv4 requests you have listed followed this process >>>>>>>> completely and, based on the information we received, were >>>>>>>> entirely justified. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andrew de la Haye >>>>>>>> Chief Operations Officer >>>>>>>> RIPE NCC >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Singel 258 >>>>>>>> 1016 AB Amsterdam >>>>>>>> the Netherlands >>>>>>>> andrew at ripe.net <mailto:andrew at ripe.net> >>>>>>>> tel: +31 20 535 4444 >>>>>>>> fax: +31 20 535 4445 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 07.10.2013 um 14:29 schrieb RIPE NCC Hostmaster >>>>>> <hostmaster at ripe.net <mailto:hostmaster at ripe.net>>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear William, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As requested I have escalated your complaint to the RIPE NCC Senior >>>>>>> Management. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They will come back to you ASAP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Andrea Cima >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RIPE NCC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:11:37 +0200, William Weber wrote: >>>>>>>> Dear Andrea, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So if there is no proof for a bribe you do as it does not exist >>>>>>>> at all? >>>>>>>> Why did no one tell me this before, i would have come with a >>>>>>>> suitcase of cash to AMS... Seriously, this statement is worse >>>>>>>> than what 3rd world dictators state all the time about bribery... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Considering that RIPE members have no access to other RIPE >>>>>>>> members add-alloc (or any other) forms it is also entirely >>>>>>>> *impossible* to prove lies in them (hey, how should i do that if >>>>>>>> i can't read them at all?) - Thus it clearly is your obligation >>>>>>>> to verify this claims OR provide the accuser with access to a >>>>>>>> system to verify it himself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is by itself alone VERY suspicious that the single largest >>>>>>>> allocation for weeks is allocated 8 days before the last /8 is >>>>>>>> reached to an unknown sole trader without any business.... yes, >>>>>>>> i think i have enough 'proof' to get this verified by the RIPE, >>>>>>>> please escalate it to whoever you think is appropriate or i will >>>>>>>> do so myself today at 00:00 via the RIPE mailing list to ALL >>>>>>>> members. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards, >>>>>>>> William Weber >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> EDIS GmbH >>>>>>>> NOC >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 04.10.2013 um 15:52 schrieb RIPE NCC Hostmaster >>>>>>>> <hostmaster at ripe.net <mailto:hostmaster at ripe.net>>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear William, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All allocations are issued based on RIPE policy and >>>>>>>>> documentation that >>>>>>>>> demonstrates the need for those resources. The information >>>>>>>>> provided by >>>>>>>>> members is confidential and cannot be shared with other members. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have proof that a member has provided false information >>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>> RIPE NCC, please provide us this proof. Based on this we can then >>>>>>>>> start evaluating the claims and take appropriate actions. The same >>>>>>>>> counts for your accusation of a RIPE NCC emloyee having received a >>>>>>>>> bribe, which is a very serious accusation, that we do not take >>>>>>>>> lightly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Finally it seems there is a misunderstanding about the date on >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> the RIPE NCC has reached its last /8 policy. The correct date is 14 >>>>>>>>> September 2012. Please find the official announcement at: >>>>>>>>> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2012-September/001825.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Andrea Cima >>>>>>>>> Registration Services Manager >>>>>>>>> RIPE NCC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:49:32 +0200, William Weber wrote: >>>>>>>>>> x-ncc-regid: at.edisgmbh (and >>>>>>>>>> at.<removed>, li.<removed>, li.<removed>, plus representing >>>>>>>>>> <removed> and <removed>) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, i have to complain again to evaluate someone.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> LIR is nl.outsideheaven >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am 100% sure that the allocation of his netblocks have >>>>>>>>>> either used false data in the add-alloc forms, plain lies or >>>>>>>>>> bribes (which i see as the most likely) - His company has no >>>>>>>>>> trading activity in any country (verified with Dutch and >>>>>>>>>> Chinese tax authorities) and nothing that would justify the >>>>>>>>>> usage of this amounts of IPv4 space. >>>>>>>>>> His usage of some of them also violates RIPE rules, most are >>>>>>>>>> for example not even announced inside the RIPE region but >>>>>>>>>> originate from AS35916 (Multacom in Los Angeles, USA) solely. >>>>>>>>>> The assignments while RIPE already reached the last /8 are >>>>>>>>>> very questionable as well and overturning a members and board >>>>>>>>>> decision. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 185.2.48.0/22 - RIPE - 1024 IPs - 2012.09 >>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.09 >>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE >>>>>>>>>> -> How was he able to obtain a /15 5 months AFTER RIPE reached >>>>>>>>>> the last /8? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2012.07 >>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE >>>>>>>>>> -> How was he able to obtain a /16 3 months AFTER RIPE reached >>>>>>>>>> the last /8? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.04 >>>>>>>>>> -> How was he able to obtain a /15 1 month AFTER RIPE reached >>>>>>>>>> the last /8? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2011.04 >>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> William Weber >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> EDIS GmbH >>>>>>>>>> NOC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >>>>>> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to >>>>>> the general page: >>>>>> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view >>>>>> >>>>>> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". >>>>>> From here, you can add or remove addresses. >>>>> ---- >>>>> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >>>>> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to >>>>> the general page: >>>>> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view >>>>> >>>>> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". >>>>> From here, you can add or remove addresses. >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >>>> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the >>>> general page: >>>> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view >>>> >>>> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". >>>> From here, you can add or remove addresses. >>> ---- >>> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >>> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the >>> general page: >>> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view >>> >>> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". >>> From here, you can add or remove addresses. >> >> >> >> ---- >> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: >> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view >> >> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. > > -- > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > Christian Hoffmann > Geschäftsführender Gesellschafter > ---- > sfip84 Hosting und mehr UG (haftungsbeschränkt) > Winterhuder Weg 29 > DE-22085 Hamburg > > Tel.: +49 (0) 40 / 22 81 56 17 0 > Fax.: +49 (0) 40 / 22 81 56 17 9 > - > vetretungsberechtigter Gesellschafter: > Christian Hoffmann > > USt-IdNr.: DE282309913 > Registergericht: Hamburg HRB 121712 > > -- > > [ Ein Geschäft, das nur Geld einbringt, ist ein schlechtes Geschäft. ] > > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. >
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