[members-discuss] IPV4 market

* Sajjad Najafi Zadeh [ MTNIrancell ]

> Why ripe is not doing re-evaluation for large IP spaces and take back
> from LIRs if they are not using them to stop this IP market ?

Because it completely fails a cost-benefit analysis, for starters.

1) High Cost:

1.1) It would be delusional to think that the LIRs in question would be
willingly give up their space (they can already do so). Expect long and
hard court battles. Are you willing to foot the bill for such an
endeavour? I certainly am not.

1.2) Tasking the RIPE NCC with this role would do irreparable damage to
its reputation. Today, the NCC is a well liked and respected
organisation. Do we really want to transform them into a universally
detested "IPv4 Police"?

2) Minimal Benefit:

2.1) Even if the NCC was successful in reclaiming any IPv4 space, it all
will go into the "last /8" pool. This means reclaiming unused space will
not make it actually be any more used than before, it just goes into
"NCC storage". It might end up being used 10-15 years from now, once the
"last /8" pool we already have has been depleted, but it will not
provide immediate relief for anyone.

2.2) Even if the "last /8 policy" was repealed, any reclaimed space
would go out the door almost instantly. It would be delusional to think
that enough space could be reclaimed in a short enough time to enable us
to resume operating like we did prior to September 2012. At best, a few
LIRs would get lucky, most would not.

> please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page:
> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view

404, for anyone who cares to fix.

Tore