[members-discuss] Complaints against LIRs ignored by NCC

Hi Andrea, 

Companies that spam the complete over and over again .. are not looking for IP space .. they are .. indeed spammers. 

We all get the emails from companies from the USA that are looking for IP space these days ... 

But if they would be eligible for ARIN space as a US company, why would they feel the need to spam the complete RIPE db ? 

ARIN still has 2 /8's ... and it is a lot cheaper for them to actually get the IP space directly from their own RIR instead of in a depleted region.   
Any company that requires more IP space, should go to the RIPE website, look at either the listing page or the transfer page where they can find the brokers. 

As Gert stated, reclaiming un-used IP space won't solve the issue. And it will also not distribute the last bit of IP space more fairly than via a broker. 

Changes are that if a big portion would be reclaimed and all policies changed to re-issue that reclaimed space, similar as in the final 14 days before depletion, it will be snagged up by some large telco in a single request and we all go back to our daily lives.  It is not worth the effort imho. 
 
Erik

-----Original Message-----
From: members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Andrea Cocito
Sent: maandag 16 december 2013 11:47
To: Gert Doering
Cc: Rade Djurasinovic; members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Complaints against LIRs ignored by NCC


On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
> There are a lot of "it should be..." or "it would be nice if...", but
> there's also a lot of reality out there.

Yes, this is the reality, and having LIRs pay a significant amount of money for the IP addresses they have allocated would fix it (I get 4-5 mails like this one per week…).

Begin forwarded message:
> From: Selim Reza <address at removed>
> Subject: IP Acquisition
> Date: December 13, 2013 12:25:34 PM GMT+01:00
> To: undisclosed-recipients: ;
> 
>  
> Hello,
>  
> We are a very reputable company from the US looking for a partner in your country to provide IPV4 and IPV6 space.  If you are interested please reply and we can discuss details of our offer and partnership.
> Have a great day!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Selim Reza
> IP Management Services





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