[members-discuss] A summary for Proposal for New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 03:00:14PM +0200, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:
>Therefore I do not find scandalous that a bigger LIR that probably makes
>billions per year (e.g. mobile companies) should pay to RIPE  50K Euros
>per year. RIPE is not useful only to me, but to EVERY SINGLE EUROPEAN
>LIR. Moreover, the more resources (e.g. IPv4, AS, etc) you allocate, the
>more you use the DB, the more you open tickets, etc.

Firstly, not everyone makes money from the use of resources.
Non-profits, charitable organisations, and individuals with PI space
exist.  
Secondly, it would require the NCC to *know* how much money a member
makes and this information is something a non-public company would not
be keen to divulge.
Thirdly, I'm sure there are many large telcos who, while using large
amounts of resources, are actually making a loss on paper. Will they get
a free ride?

>1) can we delegate somebody to go and vote? If so we could ask to other
>Lirs or Associations of Providers to step in and do vote for N LIRs. I
>do not think that would be a problem to delegate somebody who will
>represent your company, isn't it?
>
>2) do we have a remote mechanism to participate and vote?

A member can nominate a proxy to vote on their behalf or vote
electronically (that has in the past not always been possible for all 
votes) as laid out in http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-514

I note that http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm does not have any
information regarding these possibilities, maybe the NCC could remedy
this?

rgds,
Sascha Luck