[members-discuss] Proposal for New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model
Sebastian Abt sa at rh-tec.de
Sun Jul 15 14:28:44 CEST 2012
Nigel, Am 13.07.2012 um 21:40 schrieb Nigel Titley <nigel at titley.com>: > On 10/07/2012 11:06, Andrea Cocito wrote: >> On Jul 9, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Nigel Titley wrote: >>> ..... The purpose of >>> publishing this proposal now is to encourage RIPE NCC members to look at >>> the proposed new model and to give their feedback. >> Hello, >> >> My feedback is: the proposal raises the cost for small LIR, reduces it the for extra large ones, does not simplify anything and does not promote resource conservation. >> >> The "limited resource" to conserve nowadays is IPv4 address space: make the fee EUR 0.1 per allocated IPv4 address, that would be fair and simple. >> > Andrea, in the previous round of discussions we said why we can't use an > "n euros per address model". > > To re-iterate the argument, if we are seen to be "selling" IP addresses > by the Dutch tax authorities then we lose our special tax status. This RIPE can't sell IP addresses by definition. Yet, RIPE can charge registration fees based on resource utilization. To me, this argument seems invalid (and term "selling" introduced by purpose). Not going to re-iterating other tax-related arguments on this list. > will immediately cause a rise in the cost of running the RIPE as we will > be liable for Dutch corporation tax. Up until now the membership hasn't > wanted this. Could RIPE NCC please quantify what change in taxation would cause to membership fees? I doubt this to be significant. Regards Sebastian > > Nigel > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.