[members-discuss] New charging model
Lu Heng h.lu at outsideheaven.com
Tue Jul 10 11:50:22 CEST 2012
Hi On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Erik Bais <erik at bais.name> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > The numbers are currently this: > > Extra Small: 2,241 > Small: 4,071 > Medium: 1,461 > Large: 290 > Extra Large: 72 > Total: 8,135 > > That means that from 8135 LIRs in total, only 290 large and 72 are extra large in the current charging model, which is only 0,04449 % of the total population. > > Let's take a step to the side and compare this to for instance the US wealth distribution: > >> In 2007 the richest 1% of the American population owned 34.6% of the country's total wealth, and the next 19% owned 50.5%. Thus, the top 20% of Americans owned 85% of the country's wealth and the bottom 80% of the population owned 15%. >> Financial inequality was greater than inequality in total wealth, with the top 1% of the population owning 42.7%, the next 19% of Americans owning 50.3%, and the bottom 80% owning 7% > Source: Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth with reference to: http://www.forbes.com/sites/deborahljacobs/2011/11/01/occupy-wall-street-and-the-rhetoric-of-equality/ > > However, guess how that distribution is at the US Senate? More than 50% of the voting Senators are multimillionaires, who probably are in the top 20% of the Americans income wise. > > And if you go back to the RIPE AGM meeting ... guess who is attending and voting? I'm guessing around 300 people in the room and most likely around 150 votes are counted. (feel free to correct me on the actual numbers, but this is my gut feeling..) > > If you think the model is unbalanced, feel free to see if there is another model, however any kind of category based on prior possession or usage of v4 IP's is short lived imho. > > The large telco's all have the same voting power as the smaller LIR's, but if the 'other 99%' doesn't bother to show up, or vote or provide a proxy form for someone else to vote on their behalf. . . . > > Yes it is good to discuss this here on the mailing list with a Passion, but if you don't really up enough supporters to vote in your favor on the AGM where the actual voting is done ... > > Personally I don't think that we should ANY kind of usage based linking or size system. And with 68% of the total members in the Regular bucket currently, I think it is a good step forward as it is a good representation of the membership. > > On the sign-up / intake of the extra small / new lir's. Perhaps there should be a growing path to the regular bucket (initial 1 or 2 year increases towards regular), rather than a chose your own category. > > And for the extra large LIR's ? Who cares ... they are not any more special than any other LIR and with only 0,04449% of the total membership, why bother adding an extra category ... Just a quick common, these 0.0XXX% of member represent of 99.XX% resource usage,correct me if I am wrong. > > Regards, > Erik Bais > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. -- This transmission is intended solely for the addressee(s) shown above. It may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons other than the intended addressee(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify this office immediately and e-mail the original at the sender's address above by replying to this message and including the text of the transmission received.