[members-discuss] why is it proving impossible to gain IP sapce

No, there is plenty of v4 left for now - we easily got another /21 allocated the other day.

Google does have v6, facebook too - just not by default.
I talked with some of them and other content providers at RIPE meeting in Vienna and will write a further explanaition for their motives to not have it by default on in a few minutes when im at my office.

William Weber
EDIS GmbH NOC
Graz, Austria

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Am 15.02.2012 um 00:39 schrieb Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven at cb3rob.net>:

> can someone provide an insight into wether ipv4 at ripe has actually run 
> out now? how much is left.. etc :P
> 
> and can someone at google and facebook and twitter and stuff provide a 
> reason why ipv6 STILL isn't on on their stuff by default
> 
> (the same goes for ALL german xdsl providers ;)
> 
> it's not like you lot didn't have millions to spend and years to prepare 
> for it :P
> 
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Bill Lewis wrote:
> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> We have a /21 IP4 and a /32 IP6 and need more IP4... We appreciate the
>> IP4 pool is very low...but...
>> 
>> We have been trying to gain more IP4 , a /21 would be good, /20 idealy
>> as equipment vendors and partners are unfortunately not yet up to speed
>> with IP6 for production use here and therefore we need more IP4 to
>> bridge this gap.
>> 
>> The issue is that it is proving impossible to gain any IP4, it is clear
>> that we have allocated all we have and are now forced to "rent" IP space
>> from other LIR's in order to bridge the gap.
>> 
>> Can somebody tell me why we are paying to be an LIR but are unable to
>> gain modest extra resources above our initial allocation 3 years ago and
>> therefore having to resort to renting space privately?
>> 
>> Perhaps somebody could clarify this please as the last request got to a
>> point where it was clarified that all the /21 is allocated and
>> then....nothing...  We even were told we had last had an additional
>> allocation in 2010 which is not true as we joined in 2009 and that is
>> when we gained the initial and only blocks we have.
>> 
>> Our first alloc just pushes us into the Small category on its own due to
>> being a recent-ish LIR and therefore an extra block is unlikely to
>> increase our fees, is this why?
>> 
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Bill
>> uk.kijoma
>> 
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