From saskia at ripe.net Mon Jul 4 11:32:54 2011 From: saskia at ripe.net (Saskia van Gorp) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 11:32:54 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] RIPE NCC closed on Friday 8 July 2011 Message-ID: <4E1188C6.6030706@ripe.net> Dear Colleagues, Our office will be closed on Friday 8 July 2011 due to the annual RIPE NCC Summer Outing. Normal office hours will resume on Monday 11 July 2011. Regards, Saskia van Gorp RIPE NCC Facilities, Administration & Reception Manager From no-reply at ripe.net Mon Jul 4 15:56:28 2011 From: no-reply at ripe.net (Paul Rendek) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:56:28 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011 Now Open Message-ID: <4E11C68C.2030202@ripe.net> Dear Colleagues, The Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011 is now online at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GlobalIPv6survey2011 This survey has been designed by GNKS Consult in collaboration with TNO and the RIPE NCC to further understand where the community stands on IPv6 and what needs be done to ensure that the Internet community is ready for the widespread adoption of IPv6. Anyone can participate in this survey and we hope that the results will establish a comprehensive view of current IPv6 penetration and future plans for IPv6 deployment. The survey comprises 23 questions and can be completed in about 15 minutes. For those without IPv6 allocations or assignments or who have not yet deployed IPv6, there will be fewer questions. The survey will close on 31 July 2011. We thank you for your time and interest in completing this survey. If you have any questions concerning the survey, please email . For more information about the survey and links to previous year's survey results, please see: https://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/news/industry-developments/global-ipv6-deployment-monitoring-survey-2011 Regards, Paul Rendek RIPE NCC Head of External Relations and Communication From no-reply at ripe.net Wed Jul 6 10:44:37 2011 From: no-reply at ripe.net (Paul Rendek) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:44:37 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] LIR Portal: Manage Your Communication Preferences Message-ID: <4E142075.2050009@ripe.net> Dear Colleagues, In response to feedback from RIPE NCC members, you can now decide for yourself whether you would like to receive a printed copy of the RIPE NCC Annual Report. All members will be *opted out* of receiving a printed copy of the Annual Report by default. Members can indicate that they would like to receive a printed copy by selecting the "Communication Preferences" option in LIR Portal menu and choosing "Yes please, I'd like to receive a printed copy of the Annual Report". Your preferences can be changed at any time. The Annual Report is available to anyone online and members will be notified of each new edition via the ncc-announce at ripe.net mailing list. The RIPE NCC Annual Report can be found online at: http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/press-centre/publications/annual-reports The LIR Portal is available online at: https://lirportal.ripe.net/home/ We plan to add other publications to the opt-in/opt-out list in the future based on your feedback. If you have any comments, questions or feedback about this, please contact us at comms at ripe.net. Regards, Paul Rendek RIPE NCC Head of External Relations and Communication From laurent at axinet.com Wed Jul 13 15:58:00 2011 From: laurent at axinet.com (AXINET -- Laurent) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:58:00 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] Need information Message-ID: <0A58258AADE04C4D9055AD6699D5827C@PCdeLaurent> Dear sir, Dear madam, I need some precisions please. Can you explain me the difference between "Direct Assignment Users" and "LIRs" ? The LIRs can make IP assignments for their own customers (for example) and Direct Assignment Users can't. Is it correct ? Best regards, Laurent Clin AXINET France -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sven at cb3rob.net Wed Jul 13 16:29:13 2011 From: sven at cb3rob.net (Sven Olaf Kamphuis) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [members-discuss] Need information In-Reply-To: <0A58258AADE04C4D9055AD6699D5827C@PCdeLaurent> References: <0A58258AADE04C4D9055AD6699D5827C@PCdeLaurent> Message-ID: "direct assignment" is an ARIN term for PI space :P think what you mean is this: a direct payment relation between the end-user of PI space and RIPE NCC, with no LIR in between "direct assignment" end-users have PI space for their own setup, and are a direct customer of ripe (pay about the same as LIRs so then they can just as well become a LIR while they're at it ;) there is virtually no advantage to this structure over just becoming a lir. they cannot make sub assignments (as its PI, not PA space) and lately ripe is even making trouble about it being used for shared webhosting as that "appearantly" also assigns ips to "end users of the end user".. (ehh.. how is webhosting different from lets say a gameserver or a telephone exchange - ripe is on crack - with shared webhosting there is also no such thing as "sub assigning individual ips to individual end-users, you assign an x-amount of users to an ip, not an x-amount of ips to 1 end-user ;) they only recently started to make problems about that tho ;) LIRs can request both PI (for customers) and PA space/ASNs (and delegate it to customers or themselves) when registering PI space (what arin calls "direct assignment"), RIPE will usually try to get your customer to become a LIR themselves, and seems to confuse LIRs with ISPs quite a lot (making it quite useless to be a lir as its pretty much impossible to do what a lir is supposed to do, make money on PI and ASN registrations, as each and every time ripe will try to sell -them- a LIR-membership themselves ;) ofcourse a LIR is simply a buro that registers PI address space or PA ip subdelegations and ASNs on behalf of third parties, and does not nessesarily even -own- infrastructure itself, but ripe seems to somehow confuse LIRs with ISPs.. (despite the fact that you can perfectly well treat PA space as PI space and simply not route the parts of it you pimp out to customers, which they can then route themselves, so even with their attempts to "prefer" PA over PI, you can still just give customers semi PI space without much trouble ;) (nobody ever said you had to route it over your OWN ASn's ;) -- Greetings, Sven Olaf Kamphuis, CB3ROB Ltd. & Co. 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On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, AXINET -- Laurent wrote: > Dear sir, Dear madam, > > I need some precisions please. > > Can you explain me the difference between "Direct Assignment Users" and "LIRs" ? > > The LIRs can make IP assignments for their own customers (for example) and Direct > Assignment Users can't. Is it correct ? > > Best regards, > Laurent Clin > AXINET > France From frank at crew-gmbh.de Wed Jul 13 16:21:20 2011 From: frank at crew-gmbh.de (Frank Altpeter) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:21:20 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] Need information In-Reply-To: <0A58258AADE04C4D9055AD6699D5827C@PCdeLaurent> References: <0A58258AADE04C4D9055AD6699D5827C@PCdeLaurent> Message-ID: <20110713142120.GA13818@crew-gmbh.de> Moin AXINET -- Laurent, on 2011-07-13 at 15:58:00 CEST, you wrote: > Dear sir, Dear madam, > > I need some precisions please. > > Can you explain me the difference between "Direct Assignment Users" and "LIRs" ? > > The LIRs can make IP assignments for their own customers (for example) and Direct > Assignment Users can't. Is it correct ? > > Best regards, > Laurent Clin > AXINET > France I think the FAQ entry under http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/direct-assignments/faq/phase-three/what-is-a-direct-assignment-user makes it clear. Mit freundlichen Gr??en Frank Altpeter -- Wieske's Crew GmbH, Humboldtstrasse 51-55, D-22083 Hamburg Tel: +49 40 25300720, Fax: +49 40 25300722 info at crew-gmbh.de, http://www.crew-gmbh.de/ Handelsregister: HRB 89043 HH Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Thomas Wieske, Matthias K?hn | "Oh no, not again." | | - A bowl of petunias on it's way to certain death. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 230 bytes Desc: not available URL: From erik at bais.name Wed Jul 13 16:40:36 2011 From: erik at bais.name (Erik Bais) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:40:36 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] Need information In-Reply-To: <0A58258AADE04C4D9055AD6699D5827C@PCdeLaurent> References: <0A58258AADE04C4D9055AD6699D5827C@PCdeLaurent> Message-ID: <3D7F7C92CA8EEF458B7AC7BACD7D619102F193C696B4@EXVS002.netsourcing.lan> Hi Laurent, That is correct. As a LIR you are allowed to provide your customers IP addresses. Direct Assignment Users are not allowed to give IP addresses to other companies. The IP addresses provided via a Direct Assignment Users agreement should be seen as Provider Independent IP space (Similar as if an end-customer would request that via a LIR). The big difference is that RIPE is acting as the 'LIR' and deals with the end-customer directly. To make things even more interesting ... there are some specific rules that don't apply to LIR's that you would encounter as a Direct End-User. Such as having a requirement for IPv6 multi-homing in order to be eligible for an IPv6 - prefix. As a LIR, you don't have any multi-homing requirement and you can request a IPv6 prefix without questions asked. Also as a LIR, you get a /21 to start with, and you can work with the hostmasters on how to use them yourself or assign them to your end-customers. As a Direct End-customer, you only deal with the hostmasters once. And you get assigned what you require at this moment (up to 3 months.) In case you don't require to provide IP addresses to other companies and all required IP addresses are for your infrastructure only, you could go to either a LIR or RIPE and ask them for PI space. If you intent to hand out IP addresses to other companies / end-users.. You should become a LIR. Hope this helps. Regards, Erik Bais Erik Bais | A2B Internet BV | +31 299 707 115 ( Office ) | ebais at a2b-internet.com | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From no-reply at ripe.net Mon Jul 25 12:06:31 2011 From: no-reply at ripe.net (Paul Rendek) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:06:31 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] Reminder: Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011 Message-ID: <4E2D4027.2090009@ripe.net> [Apologies for duplicate mails] Dear Colleagues, There's just one week left to complete the Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011. Take part online now at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GlobalIPv6survey2011 This survey has been designed by GNKS Consult in collaboration with TNO and the RIPE NCC to further understand where the community stands on IPv6 and what needs be done to ensure that the Internet community is ready for the widespread adoption of IPv6. Anyone can participate in this survey and we hope that the results will establish a comprehensive view of current IPv6 penetration and future plans for IPv6 deployment. The survey comprises 23 questions and can be completed in about 15 minutes. For those without IPv6 allocations or assignments or who have not yet deployed IPv6, there will be fewer questions. The survey will close on 31 July 2011. We thank you for your time and interest in completing this survey. If you have any questions concerning the survey, please email . For more information about the survey and links to previous year's survey results, please see: https://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/news/industry-developments/global-ipv6-deployment-monitoring-survey-2011 Regards, Paul Rendek RIPE NCC Head of External Relations and Communication