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Phil Barton
phil at hitrail.com
Tue Aug 9 11:28:14 CEST 2011
This is the point I about made a thousand emails ago. As I understand it there is no requirement for a PI user to be a member of RIPE now or under the new proposals although membership now and in the future is desireable. BUT there was a contradiction. Under the old rules if an LIR sponsored a PI user no one paid anything (but some LIRs charged the user). However if the user became a small LIR they paid a membership. RIPE (and the LIR members who went to conference and bothered to read all these proposals earlier - 2 years in the discussion) decided that the best approach was to encourage everyone to come under the RIPE banner and charge for PI assignments or the alternative of a xxs or xs membership. Hearing all the debates this was the best option and avoids users being help to ransom as the IPV4 space dries up. My company became a small LIR 3 years ago as an alternative to a BT sponsored PI. It seems a lot of people want to reinvent the wheel when all this has been gone thru in the rigorous RIPE process - if you didn't join in then don’t complain now. -----Original Message----- From: members-discuss-admin at ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Laurent Santoul Sent: 08 August 2011 14:30 To: members-discuss at ripe.net Subject: Re: Re: [members-discuss] New Charging Scheme Hi Rob, that was my initial understanding of the document. As far as I understood, the new rules are meant not to have any sponsoring LIR any more, but to have all the users of any resource directly refer to the RIPE. I don't understand the purpose of this policy, but that's it. If I am wrong, I would like to receive a clarification from the RIPE. Il 02/08/2011 12.05, Rob Evans ha scritto: > Paolo, Patrick, > > I may be missing something here from nothing more than a quick scan of the document, but where does it say that all PI users must be members of the RIPE NCC? > > It mentions Direct Assignment Users, but aren't those are the chaps that already have a direct contract with the NCC under 2007-01? What prohibits the current setup of a "sponsoring LIR?" > > Best, > Rob > > ---- > If you don't want to receive mails from the RIPE NCC Members Discuss list, please log in to your LIR Portal account at: http://lirportal.ripe.net/ > First click on General and then click on Edit. > At the bottom of the page you can add or remove addresses. -- Dr.Ing.Paolo Prandini Dr.Paolo Prandini Rottendorfer Str. 1 A-9560 Lindl Austria Telefon +43 (0)42765105 Fax +43 (0)427637590 S.P.E.Sistemi e Progetti Elettronici s.a.s. Via Liguria 5 I-25125 Brescia Italia Telefono +39 0302427266 Fax +39 02700406565 Email prandini at spe.net Web http://www.spe.net CA https://ra.spe.net/pub/cacert/cacert.crt ------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential and intended exclusively for the addressee. Persons receiving this e-mail message who are not the named addressee (or his/her co-workers, or persons authorized to take delivery) must not use, forward or reproduce its contents. If you have received this e-mail message by mistake, please contact us immediately and delete this e-mail message beyond retrieval. Die Information dieses e-Mails ist vertraulich und ausschliesslich fuer den Adressaten bestimmt. Der Empfanger dieses e-Mails, der nicht der Adressat ist, (sowie einer seiner Mitarbeiter oder seiner Empfangsberechtigter), darf den Inhalt nicht verwenden, weitergeben oder reproduzieren. Sollten Sie dieses e-Mail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie uns bitte unverzueglich und loeschen Sie das e-Mail unwiederbringlich. Questo messaggio contiene informazioni riservate e confidenziali. Se non siete i destinatari del messaggio (o se avete ricevuto il messaggio per errore) Vi preghiamo di darcene immediata comunicazione ritornandoci il messaggio stesso. Qualsiasi copia, riproduzione in genere, uso o distribuzione del materiale contenuto o allegato al presente messaggio � severamente proibito. ---- If you don't want to receive mails from the RIPE NCC Members Discuss list, please log in to your LIR Portal account at: http://lirportal.ripe.net/ First click on General and then click on Edit. At the bottom of the page you can add or remove addresses. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3822 - Release Date: 08/08/11
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