From noreply at ripe.net Tue Apr 6 12:49:39 2010 From: noreply at ripe.net (Axel Pawlik) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:49:39 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Executive Board Elections: Registration for Electronic Voting Message-ID: <4BBB11C3.4040407@ripe.net> Dear Colleagues, At the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) October 2009 in Lisbon, the RIPE NCC Articles of Association were amended, and approved, to allow for electronic voting for the RIPE NCC Executive Board elections. At the upcoming GM in Prague, Czech Republic on 5 May 2010, the RIPE NCC Executive Board elections will, for the first time, allow remote attendees to vote electronically in the elections for the Executive Board seats. Those attending the GM on site can vote using the traditional paper ballot method. The RIPE NCC has engaged BigPulse, a third party that specialises in web-based voting solutions, to conduct the poll. Today, 6 April 2010, you will receive an email from the RIPE NCC inviting you to register for electronic voting with the BigPulse system. You should follow the instructions in the invitation email if you wish to register for electronic voting. The deadline to register for electronic voting is 21 April 2010. The voting procedure, for those voting on site and for those voting electronically, is outlined in the following document: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/elections/voting-procedure.html Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) are available on the electronic voting procedure to answer questions that you might have on electronic voting: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/elections/voting-faq.html We have also created a demonstration video that guides you through the steps that you need to follow in order to register for electronic voting: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/elections/voting-demo.html If you have any questions on the electronic voting procedure, please email . RIPE NCC Executive Board Nominations --------------------------------------------------- Voting for the appointment of two RIPE NCC Executive Board members will take place at the GM in Prague on 5 May 2010. The vacant seats are for two three-year terms. In compliance with the RIPE NCC Articles of Association, the RIPE NCC is calling for nominations to the RIPE NCC Executive Board. The deadline for nominations is Wednesday, 14 April 2010. Details on the RIPE NCC Executive Board election process, including how to nominate candidates and vote by proxy, are available at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/elections/index.html Register to Attend the GM --------------------------------- You can register to attend the GM online at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/registration Regards, Axel Pawlik Managing Director RIPE NCC Important dates 18 March 2010 Call for nominations for RIPE NCC Executive Board 25 March 2010 GM registration opens 25 March 2010 Draft agenda and proposed resolutions posted online 6 April 2010 Registration for electronic voting opens 14 April 2010 Deadline for nominations to Executive Board* 21 April 2010 Submission deadline for proposed resolutions 21 April 2010 Online registration for GM closes 21 April 2010 Deadline for registration for electronic voting 21 April 2010 Proxy forms must be received by the RIPE NCC 5 May 2010 RIPE NCC General Meeting * If there are less than three nominations by 14 April, the RIPE NCC Executive Board will nominate sufficient candidates to ensure there is an election. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 'Sven Thu Apr 8 18:23:20 2010 From: 'Sven ('Sven) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:23:20 +0300 Subject: [members-discuss] Global routing problem with 178.0.0.0/8 - Update your IANA filter lists Message-ID: <4BBE02F8.8060909@trabia.net> Dear Colleagues, together with some other LIR's we've discovered there are several issues with allocations/assignments made within the 178.0.0.0/8 range. Seemingly there are some server/router administrators/companies out there which don't regular update their IANA Allocation list. We've observed that a lot of networks are unreachable if we use IPs out of the 178.0.0.0/8 range. The same observation also made other LIR's we know. After contacting these networks (from MD, RO, RU, DE, and other counties), we figured out that they all reported they had firewall/filter rules using a IANA allocation list, and their list reported 178/8 to be "iana-reserved" or "iana-unallocated". The network 178.0.0.0/8 were allocated on January 2009 to the RIPE NCC, hence these operators haven't updated their lists for more than 1 year. I guess the filter was set up once without taking into account that currently unallocated networks might get allocated later on. This problem concerns everyone at the moment, especially people with allocations from 178.0.0.0/8. I ask every one of you to check if you use an iana filter list or if possible, notify your clients, data centers and so on to check and if necessary update their lists. Are other members in this discussion list maybe observing the same problem as we did and our LIR colleagues? Cheers! -- Sven Wiese General Director I.C.S. "Trabia-Network" S.R.L. [t] +373 (22) 844-844 [e] s.wiese at trabia.net [i] www.trabia.net Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. 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URL: From buchtik at sitkom.cz Thu Apr 8 20:00:11 2010 From: buchtik at sitkom.cz (Michal Buchtik) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:00:11 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] Global routing problem with 178.0.0.0/8 - Update your IANA filter lists In-Reply-To: <4BBE02F8.8060909@trabia.net> References: <4BBE02F8.8060909@trabia.net> Message-ID: <4BBE19AB.9040505@sitkom.cz> Hi, On 2010/04/08 18:23, 'Sven Wiese [Trabia-Network]' wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > together with some other LIR's we've discovered there are several > issues with > allocations/assignments made within the 178.0.0.0/8 range. > > Seemingly there are some server/router administrators/companies out > there which > don't regular update their IANA Allocation list. > > We've observed that a lot of networks are unreachable if we use IPs > out of the 178.0.0.0/8 range. > The same observation also made other LIR's we know. > > After contacting these networks (from MD, RO, RU, DE, and other > counties), we figured out > that they all reported they had firewall/filter rules using a IANA > allocation list, and their list > reported 178/8 to be "iana-reserved" or "iana-unallocated". > > The network 178.0.0.0/8 were allocated on January 2009 to the RIPE > NCC, hence > these operators haven't updated their lists for more than 1 year. I guess > the filter was set up once without taking into account that currently > unallocated networks > might get allocated later on. > > This problem concerns everyone at the moment, especially people with > allocations from > 178.0.0.0/8. > > I ask every one of you to check if you use an iana filter list or if > possible, notify your > clients, data centers and so on to check and if necessary update their > lists. > > Are other members in this discussion list maybe observing the same > problem as > we did and our LIR colleagues? > We have same problems with 109/8 (allocated to RIPE NCC on January 2009) When got report about unreachable network/server/(or only one service), we must find and contact administrator of this network/server and ask him to repair firewall. (Sometimes we must tediously explain, that problem is at their side) I wish you luck -- Michal Bucht?k SITKOM, s.r.o. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fgkoehler at velia.net Thu Apr 8 20:54:48 2010 From: fgkoehler at velia.net (=?UTF-8?B?RnJhbnogR2VvcmcgS8O2aGxlcg==?=) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:54:48 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] Global routing problem with 178.0.0.0/8 - Update your IANA filter lists In-Reply-To: <4BBE19AB.9040505@sitkom.cz> References: <4BBE02F8.8060909@trabia.net> <4BBE19AB.9040505@sitkom.cz> Message-ID: <4BBE2678.5050004@velia.net> Hello, this is a well known problem which regularly occures when new IP space gets allocated to the RIRs. Even though RIPE typically has a delay between getting those IPs allocated by IANA and deligating it to it's members and those IP blocks are initially announced by RIPE (typically as /8), there are always networks that do not update the bogon filters routinely. There are only two solutions to this problem: Try to contact those networks in order to get their filters updated or simply wait...... Best regards, Franz Georg K?hler Am 08.04.10 20:00, schrieb Michal Buchtik: > Hi, > > On 2010/04/08 18:23, 'Sven Wiese [Trabia-Network]' wrote: >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> together with some other LIR's we've discovered there are several >> issues with >> allocations/assignments made within the 178.0.0.0/8 range. >> >> Seemingly there are some server/router administrators/companies out >> there which >> don't regular update their IANA Allocation list. >> >> We've observed that a lot of networks are unreachable if we use IPs >> out of the 178.0.0.0/8 range. >> The same observation also made other LIR's we know. >> >> After contacting these networks (from MD, RO, RU, DE, and other >> counties), we figured out >> that they all reported they had firewall/filter rules using a IANA >> allocation list, and their list >> reported 178/8 to be "iana-reserved" or "iana-unallocated". >> >> The network 178.0.0.0/8 were allocated on January 2009 to the RIPE >> NCC, hence >> these operators haven't updated their lists for more than 1 year. I guess >> the filter was set up once without taking into account that currently >> unallocated networks >> might get allocated later on. >> >> This problem concerns everyone at the moment, especially people with >> allocations from >> 178.0.0.0/8. >> >> I ask every one of you to check if you use an iana filter list or if >> possible, notify your >> clients, data centers and so on to check and if necessary update their >> lists. >> >> Are other members in this discussion list maybe observing the same >> problem as >> we did and our LIR colleagues? >> > We have same problems with 109/8 (allocated to RIPE NCC on January 2009) > > When got report about unreachable network/server/(or only one service), > we must find and contact administrator of this network/server and ask > him to repair firewall. > (Sometimes we must tediously explain, that problem is at their side) > > I wish you luck > > -- > Michal Bucht?k > SITKOM, s.r.o. > From andy at nosignal.org Fri Apr 9 10:51:39 2010 From: andy at nosignal.org (Andy Davidson) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:51:39 +0100 Subject: [members-discuss] Global routing problem with 178.0.0.0/8 - Update your IANA filter lists In-Reply-To: <4BBE02F8.8060909@trabia.net> References: <4BBE02F8.8060909@trabia.net> Message-ID: On 8 Apr 2010, at 17:23, Sven Wiese [Trabia-Network] wrote: > We've observed that a lot of networks are unreachable if we use IPs out of the 178.0.0.0/8 range. > The same observation also made other LIR's we know. > > After contacting these networks (from MD, RO, RU, DE, and other counties), we figured out > that they all reported they had firewall/filter rules using a IANA allocation list, and their list > reported 178/8 to be "iana-reserved" or "iana-unallocated". Yes, this happens and it's very sad. When we are supporting a network in 'new' space, and an outdated bogon list is hurting the availability of services hosted in the new space, we encourage end users connected to the ISP with broken config, to complain directly to their ISP. Some ISPs tend to listen to their customers more than third parties in the community. The down side to this approach is that the broken ISP don't really learn how to fix the structural problem (swap to dynamic updates of bogons via the Cymru service, or keep up to date with newly allocated /8s), but it does make 'stuff work' for my customer. Since all v4 will be allocated to RIRs and available for assignment in ~500 days, I question the value of filtering the virgin /8s, and tend just to filter the 1918, example, 224/3, and autoconf ranges on kit that I administer now... Andy From meeting at ripe.net Mon Apr 12 11:49:17 2010 From: meeting at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Meeting Coordinator) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:49:17 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] RIPE 60 is Three Weeks Away - Agenda Now Online Message-ID: <4BC2EC9D.20603@ripe.net> [Apologies for duplicate mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE 60 Meeting is three weeks away. RIPE Working Group agendas and confirmed presentations have been posted at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-60/agendas/index.html You can register online for RIPE 60 at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-60/registration See the RIPE 60 homepage for more up-to-date information: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-60/index.html If you have questions about the RIPE Meeting, please email Regards, RIPE Meeting Team From noreply at ripe.net Mon Apr 12 15:22:49 2010 From: noreply at ripe.net (Axel Pawlik) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:22:49 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] Last Call for Nominations to RIPE NCC Executive Board References: <50910.62.194.101.36.1271077376.squirrel@webmail.ripe.net> Message-ID: <13928E0F-0BBB-4F16-A5A0-76A49A4AD361@ripe.net> Dear RIPE NCC member, The RIPE NCC is making a last call for nominations to the RIPE NCC Executive Board. The vacant seats are for two three-year terms and are to fill the places currently held by Nigel Titley and J?noz Zsak?, whose terms expire in May 2010. Voting for the appointment of the RIPE NCC Executive Board members will take place at the upcoming RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM). The GM will be held on Wednesday, 5 May 2010 from 16:00-19:00 (CEST), adjacent to the RIPE 60 Meeting, which takes place from 3-7 May 2010 at the Prague Marriott Hotel, Czech Republic. You must be registered for the GM if you wish to attend and vote in the Executive Board election. If you would like to vote but cannot attend the GM, there are two options that will allow you to vote in the Executive Board elections: Electronic Voting All RIPE NCC members who are registered contacts were emailed invitations on 6 April 2010 to register to vote electronically at the GM. If you wish to vote electronically, you must register to do so by 23:59 (UTC) on 21 April 2010. Electronic voting is available only for the Executive Board elections and not for resolutions to be voted upon at the GM. Proxy Voting You can be represented by a third party who is not an authorised employee or director. If you wish to do this, please fill out the proxy form and send it to us by 23:59 (UTC) on 21 April 2010. Any proxy sent to us after this date will not be valid. The proxy form is available to download here: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/proxy.html A nomination for the appointment of a member of the Executive Board requires the written support of at least five members. You must be a RIPE NCC member and a registered LIR contact to support a nomination. Nomination submissions should include the following information: Your full name: Your organisation: Your LIR RegID: Name of the candidate you wish to support: Nominations must be submitted by email to by 23:59 (UTC) on Wednesday, 14 April 2010, following the guidelines outlined in article 9 of the RIPE NCC Articles of Association. The list of currently confirmed candidates is available at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/elections/candidates-confirmed.html You can register to attend the GM at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/registration The deadline to register online to attend the GM is 23:59 (UTC) on Wednesday, 21 April 2010. You can find out more information on the GM at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/ If you have any questions about the GM, please email us at . Best regards, Axel Pawlik Managing Director RIPE NCC Important Dates 18 March 2010 Call for nominations for RIPE NCC Executive Board 25 March 2010 GM registration opens 25 March 2010 Draft agenda and proposed resolutions posted online 6 April 2010 Registration for electronic voting opens 14 April 2010 Deadline for nominations to Executive Board 21 April 2010 Submission deadline for proposed resolutions 21 April 2010 Online registration for GM closes 21 April 2010 Deadline for registration for electronic voting 21 April 2010 Proxy forms must be received by the RIPE NCC 5 May 2010 RIPE NCC General Meeting Cheers, Nick From noreply at ripe.net Mon Apr 19 15:06:28 2010 From: noreply at ripe.net (Axel Pawlik) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:06:28 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] RIPE NCC General Meeting May 2010 - Deadlines Approaching Message-ID: <4BCC5554.5020307@ripe.net> Dear RIPE NCC member, The RIPE NCC Executive Board reminds you that this Wednesday, 21 April 2010, at 23:59 UTC is the deadline for: - Online registration for the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) - Submitting proxy forms - Proposing resolutions to be voted upon at the GM - Registering to vote electronically in the Executive Board elections - Submitting a copy of your passport or ID to confirm registration to vote electronically *Important Note* Due to continued air traffic disruption in western Europe, members planning to attend the GM are encouraged to register for electronic voting in case the disruption causes them to be unable to attend the meeting. This will ensure that they are able to cast their votes in the RIPE NCC Executive Board elections. The GM will be held on Wednesday, 5 May 2010 from 16:00-20:30. It will be held adjacent to the RIPE 60 Meeting, which takes place from 3-7 May 2010 at the Prague Marriot Hotel in the Czech Republic. For the first time, members will be able to join the GM remotely via webcast. Details on how to access the GM webcast will be emailed to members before the meeting. Information about the GM is available at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/index.html Registration ---------------- You must register for the GM separately from the RIPE 60 Meeting. As a member, you can attend both the RIPE NCC Services Working Group session and the members-only section of the GM without being registered for RIPE 60. See below for further information on the RIPE NCC Services Working Group session. You can register for the GM online at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/registration Proxy Forms ----------------- If your organisation is to be represented by a third party, not being an authorised employee or director, please fill out the proxy form and send it to us by Wednesday, 21 April 2010. Any proxy sent to us after this date will not be valid. The proxy form is available to download here: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/proxy.html Electronic Voting Registration ------------------------------------- Electronic voting is available for RIPE NCC members who are unable to attend the GM but who wish to vote in the RIPE NCC Executive Board elections. If you wish to vote electronically at the GM, you must register to do so by following the instructions in the email that was sent to members on 6 April 2010. The deadline to register for electronic voting is Wednesday, 21 April 2010 at 23:59 UTC. This is also the deadline for sending a copy of your passport or ID to the RIPE NCC to confirm your registration to vote electronically. If you do not send a copy of your passport or ID to the RIPE NCC, you will be unable to vote electronically. You can email a copy of your passport or ID to or you can send it by fax to +31205354445. More information on electronic voting is available in the Voting section of the General Meeting May 2010 webpages: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/ Draft Agenda ------------------ The draft agenda for the RIPE NCC GM is available at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/agenda.html Report from the RIPE NCC ------------------------------- The Report from the RIPE NCC presentation will be given during the RIPE NCC Services Working Group session during RIPE 60, which constitutes the first part of the GM. GM attendees who have not registered for the RIPE Meeting are welcome to participate in this working group session. This takes place on Wednesday, 5 May 2010 from 16:00-17:30, immediately before the members-only section of the GM. The Report from the RIPE NCC presentation will not be repeated in the members-only section of the GM. Voting and Resolutions ------------------------------- Candidate members are welcome to attend the GM but are not permitted to vote according to article 16.7 of the RIPE NCC Articles of Association. Full members who are not able to attend the GM but still want to vote can do so by means of proxy voting or by electronic voting (see above). Please also note that the GM can only pass resolutions that have been submitted and published according to article 15 of the RIPE NCC Articles of Association. The RIPE NCC Articles of Association can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/articles-association.html If you have any questions about the GM, please email us at . Regards, Axel Pawlik Managing Director RIPE NCC Important dates -------------------- 18 March 2010 Call for nominations for RIPE NCC Executive Board 25 March 2010 GM registration opens 25 March 2010 Draft agenda and proposed resolutions posted online 6 April 2010 Registration for electronic voting opens 14 April 2010 Deadline for nominations to Executive Board 21 April 2010 Submission deadline for proposed resolutions 21 April 2010 Online registration for GM closes 21 April 2010 Deadline for registration for electronic voting 21 April 2010 Proxy forms must be received by the RIPE NCC 5 May 2010 RIPE NCC General Meeting From training at ripe.net Tue Apr 27 10:57:33 2010 From: training at ripe.net (Training) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:57:33 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] Announcement: RIPE NCC Training Courses Message-ID: <4BD6A6FD.3040703@ripe.net> [Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC invites you to register for one of our upcoming training courses: - The LIR Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to request Internet number resources and interact with the RIPE NCC. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/lir/outline.html - The Routing Registry Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to use the RIPE Database for routing. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/rr/outline.html - The IPv6 Training Course This course teaches LIRs about the need for IPv6 and includes basic information on how to plan your deployment. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/ipv6/outline.html To see the location of upcoming courses and to register, please use the LIR Portal or complete the registration form on our website at: RIPE NCC Upcoming Courses List & Registration https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/training/course-list.html If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at . Kind regards, Rumy Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC From meeting at ripe.net Tue Apr 27 15:53:20 2010 From: meeting at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Meeting Coordinator) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:53:20 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] RIPE 60 - Information on How to Participate Message-ID: <4BD6EC50.2050503@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, The RIPE 60 Meeting takes place next week from 3-7 May 2010 at the Marriott hotel in Prague, Czech Republic. Online Registration ------------ You can pre-register online until Friday, 30 April at 12:00 UTC at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-60/registration If you miss the online registration deadline, you can register onsite at the meeting venue. Remote Participation ------------ If you are unable to attend RIPE 60 in person, you can participate remotely. Guidelines are posted at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-60/index.php?home=remote Agendas Posted Online ------------ The Plenary agenda and all RIPE Working Group agendas are available at: http://ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-60/meeting-plan.php If you have any questions, please email . We look forward to seeing you at RIPE 60. Best regards, The RIPE Meeting Team From noreply at ripe.net Wed Apr 28 17:06:48 2010 From: noreply at ripe.net (Axel Pawlik) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:06:48 +0200 Subject: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] RIPE NCC General Meeting May 2010 - Remote Participation Message-ID: <4BD84F08.5070405@ripe.net> Dear members, The RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) will be held on 5 May 2010 at the Prague Marriott Hotel in the Czech Republic. For the first time, members of the RIPE NCC who cannot attend the GM will be able to follow the meeting live via webcast and participate remotely through Jabber. The webcast will be available at the following location: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/webcast/ To access the webcast, you will need the following details: Login: gmmay Password: W5May10GM You will need the following details to participate through Jabber: Room: gm Password: W5May10GM Details of how to access the GM Jabber room are also available on the webcast page. Those members registered to vote electronically at the GM are particularly encouraged to follow the GM webcast. A demonstration video on how to cast your vote electronically is now available at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/elections/voting-demo.html If you plan to attend the GM but have not yet registered to do so, you can register on site on 5 May from 10:00 - 15:00. For more information on the GM, please see: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2010/ If you have any questions regarding the GM, please contact . Regards, Axel Pawlik Managing Director RIPE NCC Important dates -------------------- 18 March 2010 Call for nominations for RIPE NCC Executive Board 25 March 2010 GM registration opens 25 March 2010 Draft agenda and proposed resolutions posted online 6 April 2010 Registration for electronic voting opens 14 April 2010 Deadline for nominations to Executive Board 21 April 2010 Submission deadline for proposed resolutions 21 April 2010 Online registration for GM closes 21 April 2010 Deadline for registration for electronic voting 21 April 2010 Proxy forms must be received by the RIPE NCC 5 May 2010 RIPE NCC General Meeting