R: [members-discuss] Discuss Charging Scheme 2010
Pavoni Nicola nicola.pavoni at telecomitalia.it
Fri Jun 19 12:46:01 CEST 2009
Please remove me from this list. Thank you. Best regards Nicola Pavoni -----Messaggio originale----- Da: members-discuss-admin at ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-admin at ripe.net] Per conto di Sven Olaf Kamphuis Inviato: venerdì 19 giugno 2009 12.42 A: Jeroen Wunnink Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net Oggetto: Re: [members-discuss] Discuss Charging Scheme 2010 oh dear, the routing table again... do you still run on your cisco 7200 with 32mb ram or what... get with the program, ours all have 8gb ram and even load the routing tables in under 15 minutes (half a second to be precise)... and yes, the original design was ofcourse for everyone thats connected to the internet to have their own ip space, now that hardware no longer costs a shit, i dont see any problems with that, if you still run old shit, upgrade! (you are gonna need it for ipv6 and 32 bit ASNs anyway) route table size, in my opinion, hasnt been an arguement since the invention of zebra and hot plug pci cards. -- Sven Olaf Kamphuis CB3ROB DataServices Phone: +31/87-8747479 Skype: CB3ROB MSN: sven at cb3rob.net C.V.: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cb3rob Confidential: Please be advised that the information contained in this email message, including all attached documents or files, is privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or individuals addressed. Any other use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Jeroen Wunnink wrote: > We've been discussing this draft with some of the NLNOG'ers (Dutch > network operators), and from what we (or at least I) understood in a > nutshell: > > In this draft, the PI space will lose it's scoring points scheme, and > it'll just cost 50 euro's/year for an allocation (doesn't matter if it's > a /24 or a /21 ?) > > Now a lot can (and has) already been said about the administrative > implications, but from an operational standpoint it raises a few > questions here. > If a PI assignment will 'only' cost 50 euro's a year, won't everyone and > his dog with a good story on why they need PI space just request their > own range ?, I'm seeing a flurry of new customers with 1 or 2 servers > knocking at our door to colocate these and say: 'Hey we have our own PI > space, we don't need part of your PA, please add our range to your routers' > > Resulting lots of new small fragmented prefixes being added to the > already growing global routing table.. > > -- > > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Jeroen Wunnink, > EasyHosting B.V. Systeembeheerder > systeembeheer at easyhosting.nl > > telefoon:+31 (035) 6285455 Postbus 48 > fax: +31 (035) 6838242 3755 ZG Eemnes > > http://www.easyhosting.nl > http://www.easycolocate.nl > > > > X-CONTACT-FILTER-MATCH: "ripe.net" > Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks.