[mat-wg] [atlas] Proposal for public HTTP measurements

I love the idea but unless you can profile what available capacity the
probe/anchor has I don't think the resulting measurements will be
useable.    There is no way to know your http request was slow because
someone with the end point is a hard core torrent user maxing their
location out.   Also valid for the areas where you have a hard limit and
minimal extra bandwidth.    ping/traceroute while not always a good test
does squeeze through with minimal variance in result when the site
bandwidth is congested.

also as an anchor host, can I limit the max bps because some locations is
not low cost if everyone decides to http test some speedtest file.    Our
singapore anchor for example would cost more per month then we spent on the
hardware to host an anchor in the first place.   I suspect the probe/anchor
hosts in other areas like africa, australia, new zealand, and south america
would get even larger monthly bills.




Bryan Socha
Network Engineer
DigitalOcean


On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Robert Kisteleki <robert at ripe.net> wrote:

>
> Dear RIPE Atlas users,
>
> The topic of publicly available HTTP measurements in RIPE Atlas comes up
> from time to time. There were a number of discussions about pros and cons
> for this feature over the years (including exposing probe hosts to
> unnecessary risks of other users "measuring" just about any kind of HTTP
> content out there), with no firm outcome.
>
> While we understand that this feature would come handy for some of our
> users, it does not benefit everyone. Therefore our proposal is the
> following:
>
> 1. We'll enable HTTP measurements to be performed by all atlas users, from
> any probes.
>
> 2. The targets of such measurements can only be RIPE Atlas anchors (these
> already run HTTP servers, see https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/anchors/).
>
> 3. Parameters like costs, minimum frequency, maximum number of probes
> involved, etc. will be set by the development team, just as with the other
> measurements.
>
> 4. The RIPE NCC will still be able to support other, vetted HTTP
> measurements as long as it benefits the community, as well as other HTTP
> measurements that we deem operationally useful. These will be evaluated on
> a
> case by case basis.
>
>
> Please speak up at the MAT working group list (mat-wg at ripe.net) if you
> support / don't support this proposal, of if you have any other opinion
> about it.
>
> Regards,
> Robert Kisteleki
> RIPE NCC R&D manager, for the RIPE Atlas team
>
>
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