[lir-wg] Discussion about RIPE-261

Hi,

On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 03:56:36PM +0100, Carlos Morgado wrote:
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> > The interesting problem is how to make end user (!) multihoming work
> > without putting the burden on everybody *else*.  I am NOT interested in
> > seeing 20.000 small multihomed end customers in my routing tables, because
> > in the end everything goes over one of two possible links anyway.
> 
> That's cause you only have 2 links. Some people have 20. With 3 diferent
> routing policies. And that's not even counting costumer links.
> Geting the Americas, Africa, Europe and Asia routes blows dead bears in
> that situation. 

As I've already replied to Daniel Roesen: if you're big enough, you might
need to carry even the far-distant more specifics.  But then you need to
buy "the big routers" anyway, just due to interface speed reasons.

And again: not wanting to do something doesn't mean you have to take 
away the possibility to do so from everybody else, unless there is good
technical reason against it.

[..]
> > So go and get an allocation :-)
> 
> Aparently I'm not big enough. My costumers are though.

Have you sent in a formal request to the RIPE hostmasters?

> I'm supposed to get a /48 from one my 5 or 6 upstream providers and 
> then announce it to a number of IXs. 
> It's got to be a brave new Internet when in the name of aggregation
> upstream providers can't get address space. 
> (but that's another flamewar ;))

I'm not going to revive that discussion - this *is* why we're working
on the policy (on the global-v6 list) and have the proposal to change
the "200 customers" requirement.

Right now we're talking about a specific proposal (RIPE-261) and should
try to keep the discussion focused.

Gert Doering
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