[lir-wg] IPv6 assignments to RIPE itself

Hi,

On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 08:05:38PM +0000, Robert Kiessling wrote:
> RIPE uses addresses which are unassigned:
> 
> > host -t aaaa ns.ripe.net.
> ns.ripe.net IPv6 address 2001:610:240:0:193::193
> 
> > whois 2001:610:240:0:193::193
> inet6num:     2001:0610:0240::/42
> netname:      RIPE-NCC-IPv6
> descr:        RIPE NCC
> status:       ALLOCATED-BY-LIR
> 
> In my understanding, this is not an allowed usage sice RIPE must
> assign a /48 to themselves before the use the address space.
> 
> However, I rose this issue with them, and they claim there is not need
> for this.
> 
> Could someone please explain to me where my understanding of the
> allocation and assignment rules is flawed?

I tend to agree with you.  The /42 has been sub-allocated from Surfnet 
to the RIPE NCC (the NCC being "Just any Surfnet customer" here, not
acting in their function as RIR).

Out of that /42, the NCC is using a /48 for "NCC network", and further
/48s for "employee home networks".  [Personally, I see this as wastive,
but I've mentioned before that "/48 per site" is a stupid rule in the
context of "employee networks" and "student homes", as it means most
companies will then want more than a /48, which is NOT what was intended.
But that's a separate discussion].

Following the basic principles of "conservation, aggregation, documentation",
I think the usage of the individual /48s inside the /42 really should be
documented.

On the other hand, the guidelines are not really clear.  After all, it's
*Surfnet* who has to document what they do inside their /32, and they
*have* documented that this /42 is used by the RIPE NCC.

Tricky.  And setting interesting (and important) precedence.

Gert Doering
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