KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
Stephen J. Wilcox steve at opaltelecom.co.uk
Thu Jun 6 16:59:49 CEST 2002
Indeed, for example k.root-servers.net is hosted at LINX and is reachable globally by this kind of setup.. Steve On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Jared Mauch wrote: > > While a good idea, not everyone can announce or reach the > IX fabrics that they connect to or are out there. > > One solution to that problem is to have the IX operate a > zeebra/gated/whatnot box (or router+machine combo) that > announces a /24 and as part of connecting to the IX people > are required to peer (and provide transit) for that /24 for > the "good of the internet". > > This would allow everyone that connects to the IX to see > the benifits of having a close (to their network that is) dns server > as well as if my provider does not announce the DE-CIX, LINX, mae-e, mae-w, > paix, nyiix, or whatever space to me, i can still reach a server > placed at the IX via their network or via their peers/upstreams. > > - Jared > > http://puck.nether.net/dns/ > (very rough ui) > > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:07:09PM +0200, Nipper, Arnold wrote: > > > > As a lot of people are offering secondary services: may be it's a good idea > > to place infrastructural services at IXP. IXP seem to be more stable than > > any ISPs and often more neutral than ISPs. > > > > Comments? > > > > > > Arnold > > -- > > Arnold Nipper, DE-CIX, the German Internet Exchange > > email: arnold.nipper at de-cix.net > > mobile: +49 172 2650958 > > handle: an6695-ripe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sabine Dolderer/Denic" <dolderer at denic.de> > > To: "Jan-Ahrent Czmok" <czmok at gatel.net> > > Cc: <apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net>; <apops at lists.apnic.net>; <ddiaz at ripe.net>; > > <joao at ripe.net>; <lir-wg at ripe.net>; <nanog at merit.edu>; <randy at psg.com>; > > <routing-wg at ripe.net>; <tech-l at ams-ix.net> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:43 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > DENIC runs currently several secondarys (not only DE but also for some > > other TLDs) in different places worldwide. We are willing to offer > > secondary service for other ccTLDs. But there will be because of > > security/stability reasons a limit on the number of ccTLDs we want to run > > on a single machine. > > > > Sabine > > > > -- > > Sabine Dolderer > > DENIC eG > > Wiesenhüttenplatz 26 > > D-60329 Frankfurt > > > > eMail: Sabine.Dolderer at denic.de > > Fon: +49 69 27235 0 > > Fax: +49 69 27235 235 > > > > > > > > Jan-Ahrent > > Czmok An: Joao Luis Silva Damas > > <joao at ripe.net> > > <czmok at gatel. Kopie: randy at psg.com, > > ddiaz at ripe.net, routing-wg at ripe.net, > > net> lir-wg at ripe.net, tech-l at ams-ix.net, > > apops at lists.apnic.net, > > Gesendet von: nanog at merit.edu, > > apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net > > [email protected] Thema: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net > > server. > > ripe.net > > > > > > 06.06.2002 > > 01:29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PostedDate: 06.06.2002 01:29:37 > > $MessageID: <20020606012937.2c476312.czmok at gatel.net> > > From: owner-lir-wg at ripe.net > > SendTo: Joao Luis Silva Damas <joao at ripe.net> > > CopyTo: > > randy at psg.com;ddiaz at ripe.net;routing-wg at ripe.net;lir-wg at ripe.net;tech-l at ams- > > ix.net;apops at lists.apnic.net;nanog at merit.edu;apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net > > > > Subject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > > Received: from smtp.denic.de ([126.96.36.199]) by notes.denic.de > > (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 2002060601283597:15602 > > ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:28:35 +0200 > > Received: from postman.ripe.net (postman.ripe.net [188.8.131.52]) by > > smtp.denic.de with smtp id 17FkCg-0004uX-00; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:28:34 > > +0200 > > Received: (qmail 11455 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 2002 23:28:15 -0000 > > Received: (qmail 11452 invoked by uid 66); 5 Jun 2002 23:28:15 -0000 > > Delivered_To: lists-lir-wg-out at lists.ripe.net > > PRINCIPAL: Jan-Ahrent Czmok <czmok at gatel.net> > > In_Reply_To: <[email protected][184.108.40.206]> > > References: <200206051725.g55HPlA05396 at birch.ripe.net> > > <E17Ff8f-0003So-00 at roam.psg.com> <[email protected][220.127.116.11]> > > Organization: Global Access Telecommunications Inc. > > $Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.6claws16 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) > > X_Ncc_RegID: de.gatel > > MIME_Version: 1.0 > > Precedence: bulk > > X_Loop_Detect: RIPE NCC > > SMTPOriginator: owner-lir-wg at ripe.net > > RouteServers: CN=notes/O=Denic > > RouteTimes: 06.06.2002 01:28:36-06.06.2002 01:28:38 > > DeliveredDate: 06.06.2002 01:28:38 > > DENICDOCOPENCOUNT: 1 > > $MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on notes/Denic(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, > > 2001) at 06.06.2002 01:28:36;MIME-CD by Notes Client on Sabine > > Dolderer/Denic(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 06.06.2002 > > 09:32:28;MIME-CD complete at 06.06.2002 09:32:28 > > BlindCopyTo: > > WebSubject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > > > > > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:08:46 +0200 > > Joao Luis Silva Damas <joao at ripe.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > At 11:04 -0700 5/6/02, Randy Bush wrote: > > > > > Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility > > > >> of its services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in > > > >> agreement with KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this > > > >> server (ns.eu.net) in its premises. > > > > > > > >nice emergency hack and sorry to whine. but i used them both > > > >to get diversity. > > > > > > Hi Randy, > > > > > > there are 16 ccTLDs for which ns.ripe.net and ns.eu.net are both > > > secondary. So we will definitely request those ccTLDs to look for a > > > new host as soon as possible. > > > > Hi Randy, hi Joao, dear routing-wg, > > > > probably my Company (GATEL, AS13129) is able to host a secondary > > server for the ccTLDs. > > > > The question is rather what are the hardware "requirements" for the > > secondary > > server. > > > > We have sufficient bandwidth capacity available and rack space as well. > > > > > The rest can take bit more time to think what they want to do since > > > ns.eu.net will keep running. > > > > Well done ! Congrats for the good ideas and coordination work. > > > > > > > > We are offering secondary service on ns.ripe.net for any ccTLD that > > > we weren't sencodaring for, as are other people. > > > > > > The idea is not to have ns.eu.net running for ever, just to enable > > > people to have time to take rational decisions, without the fear of > > > having the server going away because of some unexpected turn of > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > >when in less of a panic, please move it to moscow or something. > > > > > > Panic? what panic? this is just common sense > > > > > > > right. it's not panic. > > > > --jan > > > > -- > > Jan Ahrent Czmok - Senior Network Engineer - Access Networks > > Global Access Telecommunications, Inc. - Stephanstr. 3 - 60313 Frankfurt > > voice: +49 69 299896-35 - fax: +49 69 299896-66 - email: czmok at gatel.de > > > > > > > >
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