KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
Jared Mauch jared at puck.Nether.net
Thu Jun 6 16:16:34 CEST 2002
While a good idea, not everyone can announce or reach the IX fabrics that they connect to or are out there. One solution to that problem is to have the IX operate a zeebra/gated/whatnot box (or router+machine combo) that announces a /24 and as part of connecting to the IX people are required to peer (and provide transit) for that /24 for the "good of the internet". This would allow everyone that connects to the IX to see the benifits of having a close (to their network that is) dns server as well as if my provider does not announce the DE-CIX, LINX, mae-e, mae-w, paix, nyiix, or whatever space to me, i can still reach a server placed at the IX via their network or via their peers/upstreams. - Jared http://puck.nether.net/dns/ (very rough ui) On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:07:09PM +0200, Nipper, Arnold wrote: > > As a lot of people are offering secondary services: may be it's a good idea > to place infrastructural services at IXP. IXP seem to be more stable than > any ISPs and often more neutral than ISPs. > > Comments? > > > Arnold > -- > Arnold Nipper, DE-CIX, the German Internet Exchange > email: arnold.nipper at de-cix.net > mobile: +49 172 2650958 > handle: an6695-ripe > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sabine Dolderer/Denic" <dolderer at denic.de> > To: "Jan-Ahrent Czmok" <czmok at gatel.net> > Cc: <apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net>; <apops at lists.apnic.net>; <ddiaz at ripe.net>; > <joao at ripe.net>; <lir-wg at ripe.net>; <nanog at merit.edu>; <randy at psg.com>; > <routing-wg at ripe.net>; <tech-l at ams-ix.net> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:43 AM > Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > > > > Hello, > > DENIC runs currently several secondarys (not only DE but also for some > other TLDs) in different places worldwide. We are willing to offer > secondary service for other ccTLDs. But there will be because of > security/stability reasons a limit on the number of ccTLDs we want to run > on a single machine. > > Sabine > > -- > Sabine Dolderer > DENIC eG > Wiesenhüttenplatz 26 > D-60329 Frankfurt > > eMail: Sabine.Dolderer at denic.de > Fon: +49 69 27235 0 > Fax: +49 69 27235 235 > > > > Jan-Ahrent > Czmok An: Joao Luis Silva Damas > <joao at ripe.net> > <czmok at gatel. Kopie: randy at psg.com, > ddiaz at ripe.net, routing-wg at ripe.net, > net> lir-wg at ripe.net, tech-l at ams-ix.net, > apops at lists.apnic.net, > Gesendet von: nanog at merit.edu, > apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net > owner-lir-wg@ Thema: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net > server. > ripe.net > > > 06.06.2002 > 01:29 > > > > > > > PostedDate: 06.06.2002 01:29:37 > $MessageID: <20020606012937.2c476312.czmok at gatel.net> > From: owner-lir-wg at ripe.net > SendTo: Joao Luis Silva Damas <joao at ripe.net> > CopyTo: > randy at psg.com;ddiaz at ripe.net;routing-wg at ripe.net;lir-wg at ripe.net;tech-l at ams- > ix.net;apops at lists.apnic.net;nanog at merit.edu;apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net > > Subject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > Received: from smtp.denic.de ([22.214.171.124]) by notes.denic.de > (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 2002060601283597:15602 > ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:28:35 +0200 > Received: from postman.ripe.net (postman.ripe.net [126.96.36.199]) by > smtp.denic.de with smtp id 17FkCg-0004uX-00; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:28:34 > +0200 > Received: (qmail 11455 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 2002 23:28:15 -0000 > Received: (qmail 11452 invoked by uid 66); 5 Jun 2002 23:28:15 -0000 > Delivered_To: lists-lir-wg-out at lists.ripe.net > PRINCIPAL: Jan-Ahrent Czmok <czmok at gatel.net> > In_Reply_To: <email@example.com> > References: <200206051725.g55HPlA05396 at birch.ripe.net> > <E17Ff8f-0003So-00 at roam.psg.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Organization: Global Access Telecommunications Inc. > $Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.6claws16 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) > X_Ncc_RegID: de.gatel > MIME_Version: 1.0 > Precedence: bulk > X_Loop_Detect: RIPE NCC > SMTPOriginator: owner-lir-wg at ripe.net > RouteServers: CN=notes/O=Denic > RouteTimes: 06.06.2002 01:28:36-06.06.2002 01:28:38 > DeliveredDate: 06.06.2002 01:28:38 > DENICDOCOPENCOUNT: 1 > $MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on notes/Denic(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, > 2001) at 06.06.2002 01:28:36;MIME-CD by Notes Client on Sabine > Dolderer/Denic(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 06.06.2002 > 09:32:28;MIME-CD complete at 06.06.2002 09:32:28 > BlindCopyTo: > WebSubject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:08:46 +0200 > Joao Luis Silva Damas <joao at ripe.net> wrote: > > > > > At 11:04 -0700 5/6/02, Randy Bush wrote: > > > > Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility > > >> of its services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in > > >> agreement with KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this > > >> server (ns.eu.net) in its premises. > > > > > >nice emergency hack and sorry to whine. but i used them both > > >to get diversity. > > > > Hi Randy, > > > > there are 16 ccTLDs for which ns.ripe.net and ns.eu.net are both > > secondary. So we will definitely request those ccTLDs to look for a > > new host as soon as possible. > > Hi Randy, hi Joao, dear routing-wg, > > probably my Company (GATEL, AS13129) is able to host a secondary > server for the ccTLDs. > > The question is rather what are the hardware "requirements" for the > secondary > server. > > We have sufficient bandwidth capacity available and rack space as well. > > > The rest can take bit more time to think what they want to do since > > ns.eu.net will keep running. > > Well done ! Congrats for the good ideas and coordination work. > > > > > We are offering secondary service on ns.ripe.net for any ccTLD that > > we weren't sencodaring for, as are other people. > > > > The idea is not to have ns.eu.net running for ever, just to enable > > people to have time to take rational decisions, without the fear of > > having the server going away because of some unexpected turn of > > events. > > > > > > > >when in less of a panic, please move it to moscow or something. > > > > Panic? what panic? this is just common sense > > > > right. it's not panic. > > --jan > > -- > Jan Ahrent Czmok - Senior Network Engineer - Access Networks > Global Access Telecommunications, Inc. - Stephanstr. 3 - 60313 Frankfurt > voice: +49 69 299896-35 - fax: +49 69 299896-66 - email: czmok at gatel.de > > > -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared at puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.
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