[lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
Peter Galbavy peter.galbavy at knowtion.net
Wed Dec 4 10:22:12 CET 2002
> I cannot accept that you say 'most members ..', because from where I'm > sitting, there's plenty of voices speaking for training, education, social > and formal engineering (eg, meetings). None of those have fallen into my 'other' category. I have stated that training and education are important IMHO. But then, only training and education directly related to registration services I guess. > I hardly think it is sneaked out. You said yourself that you are not able > (or was not) to participate in the debates and that you expect the membership > at large to act in your best interrest. Now it turns out that you > categorically believe that the RIPE NCC should only run registration services. You imply the two statements are related. I dispute that. My belief that RIPE/RIPE-NCC should be primarily and reasonably exclusively about registration services - given the members are paying for that - and has been that way since the mid '90s. > Permit me to fuel your hatred some more: I was recently approached by the Just to clarify. I don't 'hate'. Either socially, commercially or morally. Hate is a sad emotion that is expressed by those unable to have rational thoughts about a subject. Those who put down the resonable concerns of others by shouting loudly may be the ones unable to participate in a rational discussion. > RIPE NCC's board to participate in a discussion round with a KPMG research > individual and as a matter of fact, we spoke exactly about what 'Other' > should be. I voiced my opinion for training, education and spreading of > new technologies topdown, such as IPv6 (of which I am an advocate). Well pre-chosen survey / research subjects skew the results to fit an expectation - this is how most political parties and self-interest groups do it, so why not the existing RIPE management ? You neither suprise me or change my opinion about the current operation of RIPE/RIPE-NCC. > Suffice to say that not every (and I doubt even 'most') member thinks the > same on what the RIPE NCC should be doing. Yes. Correct in every way. The problem in my view, especially in the light of recent exchanges, is that unless all RIPE members are able to express their views then we will never actually know whether there is a consensus. As Jurt said in another e-mail, it appears that certain people appears shocked that some of us are expressing an unapprove view (I have paraphrased and am not quoting). rgds, -- Peter
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