Refuse een assignment because it 'cannot' be routed?
Anne Marcel Roorda
Tue Feb 27 17:23:48 CET 2001
> > >> Now a customer would like to get a static ip but does not want > > ONE static IP address? PA, I assume? > > Yes, PA. > > > > >> If the customers sends a RIPE-141 request to the ISP, can the > > ISP assign a > > >> range but not route it to the customer? > > > > ... which would be extremely useful for ??? > > In order to force the customer to buy a more expensive service which > includes fixed ip! > Please understand that nor I nor my employer is doing this or even > advocating this practice. To the contrary: I'm just observing that it > happens and am so displeased about this that I am looking for ways to > counter it. > > > > >> Can it refuse the request on the grounds that it cannot route > > the assigned > > >> range to a dynamic ip? > > > > ... so, you want to rent a house and put a security guard on the entrance > > door not allowing people who bought it to move in. Interesting ... > > I think it is more appropriate to state that someone is looking for a house > but all landlords he meets will move his front door every day unless he pays > tripple rent. > > I suppose the question can be phrased more theoretically as: > > "If a LIR is obliged to assign address space (is it?), wouldn't it make > sense to oblige a provider to route it" > > or the other way'round: > > "If an address space request is made, is the non-willingness of an ISP to > route it sufficient grounds to deny the request?" > > > > Well, there is no formal policy obligation for you to route the addresses > > you assigned, but what would those addresses then be good for? > > That's the point. Can the customer somehow (e.g. by submitting a ripe-141) > force the ISP to assign him a static ip address? Or will it get him nowhere? > Hi, This is a very interesting problem. As far as I am aware there is no obligation to assign IP space when someone becomes a customer of an entity served by a LIR. Possible problems when submitting a RIPE-141 document: - There is no obligation to process the request - The LIR may charge for processing the request - The LIR may charge for the assignment - The provider may charge for the routing You could opt to ask RIPE for a PI allocation, but noone is required to route it for you. Regards, - marcel
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