[local-ir] Re: ripe-167

> it with our political and economical ones. I do agree with some points in 
> Mr. Stesin's message, and I do understand his wishes with regard to the
> proposed RIR for CIS (whatever it means). There are two registries in AM, 
> and I "represent" both of them - at present, we are not interested in a RIR
> for CIS - we're pretty comfortable with the RIPE (Hello there :-). I would
Certainly, YOU are. But we - we are not happy to solve problems via 
Amsterdam. I do not meant _we can'not_ - but it's not good idea. Exactly 
- _we can_ - but we like to be served better.

Then, look at tha map - RIPE serves Europe, yes. But CIs and even Russia 
is not Europe. 

I do not insist to have there independent LIR at once - but at least you 
must have some office there, with people speaking in English and Russion, 
and bank transferese available in Roubles. And there must be someone in 
Amsterdam who represents our interests, anyway.

No matter if Ukrainian are too proud to be served by anyone except 
Europeans - let's go, or let's choose. I don't think Stesin have spoken 
about some political issues - just about the same /interests, 
language, currency/ issues. Through next they'll say _we'd like to be 
served by the GOD only -:)_. 

The main idea they (and others) have said was _we'd like to choose_. Now 
no one have any chance to choose - you must send fax to Amsterdam, 
transfere money yourself to the Amsterdam, and so on... You (we) can't 
get a ticket and fly to the RIPE at once - it takes a time to get visas 
etc. No anybody can phone to Amsterdam - it must be english-speaking 
person. And so on... That's the issue, just as _CIS is not only europe_ 
is the issue too. Let's drop out political aspects, of course.


> like to ask you to not transfer the discussion about LIRs to the political/
> /national/etc levels,
> 
> yours
> 
> Edgar
> am.nic
> am.armentel
> 
> 
> 

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