From ncc at ripe.net Fri Apr 15 13:04:48 1994 From: ncc at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Staff) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:04:48 +0200 Subject: Local IR mailing list Message-ID: <9404151104.AA04003@mellow.ripe.net> Dear All, The Local Registries mailing list has been updated significantly to include a number of new registries. The coordinates of new registries have also been added. Welcome to all the new local registries. Please check that your email addresses below are the correct ones and reply to . In future, all new local IR's will be announced to this list as fyi's. Coming up in a separate mail is a revised list of Local IR's. Please check that your contact details are correct so we can ensure that the list is up to date. Regards, Anne included: Local-IR Mailing List below ACOnet ARNES ARNES BELNET BELWUE CH-NIC CERN CNS DATANET DE-NIC DEMON DKnet < nic at dknet.dk> DFN ENERGIS ERICSSON ECRC ESTONIA EUNET EUNET-AT EUNET-BE EUNET-BG EUNET-CS EUNET-DE EUNET-DK EUNET-ES EUNET-FI EUNET-GB EUNET-GR EUNET-GR EUNET-HR-SI EUNET-IE EUNET-IT EUNET-LU EUNET-NL EUNET-NO EUNET-PL EUNET-PT EUNET-RO EUNET-SI EUNET-SK FCCN FORTH FUNET GEC Marconi Registry GENESIS ITALY IVO HEANET HEANET HUNGARNET # user unknown 940303 #INFONET ibm INet ISLAND ISRAEL JNT MARNET MAZ CLS NASK OLEANE OLEANE PHILIPS PIPEX RACAL RCCN REDIRIS RENATER ROMANIA EARN RIPE-NCC RU-NIC RU SPACE INTERNET SUNET SURFNET SURIS-ISnet SWIPNET SWITCH TELEPOST NORWAY TIPNET TRANSPAC FR TRANSPAC SE Turkey Last Resort Registry UK-HEP Community UK-NIC UKRAINE Last Resort Registry UNISOURCE UNINETT UUNET Gulf XLINK local-ir at tbit.dk Andreas Kasenides iplist at empb.net # # guests # IANA MERIT David Conrad Peter Ford ----------------------------------- From ncc at ripe.net Fri Apr 15 13:29:46 1994 From: ncc at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Staff) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:29:46 +0200 Subject: DRAFT revised list of Local Registries Message-ID: <9404151129.AA04023@mellow.ripe.net> Dear All, Below is the revised list of local registries in Europe. This is being circulated one last time before being announced as a RIPE document. Please check through it to ensure that your contact details are correct and make any necessary corrections to . As of this moment we have a total of 107 registries of which: 12 are Enterprise Registries 28 are Registries of the Last Resort and 67 are Service Providers Anne ---------------------------------------------------------------------- List of Local Internet Registries in Europe Document ID: ripe-111 Obsoletes: ripe-101 ABSTRACT This document lists the local Internet Registries in Europe. Introduction This is a list of European Local Internet Registries in Europe. It is intended to clarify who should be contacted for IP network numbers. All of the organisations listed allocate IP network numbers. The previously centralised procedures for obtaining IP network numbers from the Global Internet Registry (known as the InterNIC, formerly the DDN NIC) have been replaced by a distributed system. Blocks of Internet Network numbers are now delegated to the RIPE NCC, who in turn delegates blocks of numbers to local registries (IR's). The local IR's in turn, make most of the IP network number assignments in Europe. Local IR's are of three types. There are "Enterprise" registries "Service Provider" registries and "Last Resort" registries. Enterprises that wish to coordinate address space usage internally may make arrangements with the RIPE NCC to become registered as enterprise registry. Anyone within the enterprise concerned should contact the enterprise registry for Internet address space. Those who intend to connect to the Internet in the foreseeable future or, at the present time, do not have an IP service provider selected, should contact the "Registry of Last Resort" for the coun- tryconcerned. If such a registry is not listed below, requests shoule be directed to the RIPE NCC. Alternatively those who have a service provider selected should con- tact the service provider for IP numbers. Some organisations appear twice in the list. This is because they act both as "Service Provider" and as "Latst Resort" registries. ripe-111.txt - 2 - The list is sorted alphabetically by country code. The "Last Resort" registry is listed last for each country. This list is also quite definitely not a comprehensive list of Internet service providers in Europe and should not be used as such. If you are looking for Internet service and do not have sufficient information, please contact the RIPE NCC with details of exactly what service you require in which location(s). The NCC will then notify all known service providers of the service request. If you have any queries, please do not hesitate to contact the RIPE NCC at , telephone +31 20 592 5065, fax +31 20 592 5090. ripe-111.txt - 3 - ae Registries in UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ae) org: UUNET Gulf status: Enterprise Registry person: Khalid Lootah address: Unisun Technology address: PO Box 55755 address: Dubai country: United Arab Emirates phone: +9714 662764 fax-no: +9714 681926 e-mail: lootah at uugulf.ae There is currently no last resort registry in UNITED ARAB EMIRATES. Please contact the NCC if you do not have another registry to turn to. ripe-111.txt ae - 4 - at Registries in AUSTRIA (at) org: ACONET status: Service Provider person: Wilfried Woeber address: Computer Center - ACOnet address: Universitaetsstrasse 7 address: A-1010 Vienna country: Austria (at) phone: +43 1 4065822 355 fax-no: +43 1 4065822 170 e-mail: wilfried.woeber at cc.univie.ac.at org: EUnet AT status: Service Provider person: Michael Haberler address: EUnet EDV Dienstleistungs Ges.m.b.h address: Schottenring 33 address: A-1010 Wien country: Austria (at) phone: +43 1 3174969 fax-no: +43 1 3104462 e-mail: mah at Austria.EU.net The last resort registry in AUSTRIA is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: EUnet AT status: Registry of Last Resort person: Waltraud Noficzer person: Georg Chytil address: Schottenring 33 address: A-1010 Wien country: Austria (at) phone: +43 1 3174969 fax-no: +43 1 3104462 e-mail: hostmaster at austria.eu.net ripe-111.txt at - 5 - be Registries in BELGIUM (be) org: Belnet status: Service Provider person: Stephan Biesbroeck address: DPWB - SPPS address: Wetenschapsstraat 8 address: B-1040 Brussels country: Belgium (be) phone: +32 2 2383470 fax-no: +32 2 2305912 e-mail: Stephan.Biesbroeck at belnet.be org: EUnet BE status: Service Provider person: Jean Huens address: Dept. Computerwetenschappen address: Celestijnenlaan 200A address: B-3001 Leuven country: Belgium (be) phone: +32 16 201015 fax-no: +32 16 205308 e-mail: jean at belgium.eu.net org: INnet status: Service Provide person: Luc Dierckx address: Postelarenweg 2 Bus 3 address: B-2400 Mol country: Belgium (be) phone: +32 14 319937 fax-no: +32 14 319011 e-mail: info at INbe.net org: KREDIETBANK status: Enterprise Registry person: Paul Decooman person: Bart Huez address: Systems and Methods address: Opzichterstraat 41 address: B 1040 Brussels country: Belgium phone: +32 2 4227409 fax-no: +32 2 4228534 There is currently no last resort registry in BELGIUM. Please con- tact the NCC if you do not have another registry to turn to. ripe-111.txt be - 6 - bg Registries in BULGARIA (bg) org: EUnet BG status: Service Provider address: c/o Digital Systems person: Daniel Kalchev address: Neofit Bozveli 6 address: Varna - 9000 country: Bulgaria (bg) phone: +359 52 259135 fax-no: +359 52 234540 e-mail: daniel at digsys.bg The last resort registry in BULGARIA is listed below. Please con- tact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: BG EUnet Daniel Kalchev status: Registry of Last Resort address: c/o Digital Systems person: Daniel Kalchev address: Neofit Bozveli 6 address: Varna - 9000 country: Bulgaria (bg) phone: +359 52 259135 fax-no: +359 52 234540 e-mail: daniel at digsys.bg ripe-111.txt bg - 7 - ch Registries in SWITZERLAND (ch) org: EUnet CH status: Service Provider person: Simon Poole address: Zweierstrasse address: CH-8004 Zuerich country: Switzerland (ch) phone: +41 1 291 45 80 fax-no: +41 1 291 46 42 e-mail: poole at chuug.ch org: SWITCH Geschaeftsstelle status: Service Provider person: Thomas Brunner address: Limmatquai 138 address: CH-8001 Zurich country: Switzerland (ch) phone: +41 1 268 1530 fax-no: +41 1 268 1568 e-mail: ch-zone-contact at switch.ch The last resort registry in SWITZERLAND is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: CHUUG-EUnet status: Registry of Last Resort person: Simon Poole address: Zweierstrasse address: CH-8004 Zuerich country: Switzerland (ch) phone: +41 1 291 45 80 fax-no: +41 1 291 46 42 e-mail: hostmaster at nic.eunet.ch ripe-111.txt ch - 8 - cy Registries in CYPRUS (cy) org: University of Cyprus status: Provider person: Andreas Kasenides address: 75, Kallipoleos Str. address: Nicosia 134 country: Cyprus (cy) phone: 357 2 366186 fax-no: 357 2 476082 e-mail: kasenid at jupiter.cca.ucy.cy The last resort registry in CYPRUS is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: University of Cyprus status: Registry of Last Resort person: Andreas Kasenides address: 75, Kallipoleos Str. address: Nicosia 134 country: Cyprus (cy) phone: 357 2 366186 fax-no: 357 2 476082 e-mail: kasenid at jupiter.cca.ucy.cy ripe-111.txt cy - 9 - cz Registries in CZECH REPUBLIC (cz) org: EUnet Czech Republic status: Service Provider person: Jiri Orsag address: COnet, Ltd. address: Technicka 5 address: Prague 6 address: 166 28 country: Czech Republic (cz) phone: +42 2 3323242 fax-no: +42 2 24310646 e-mail: hostmaster at eunet.cz The last resort registry in CZECH REPUBLIC is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: EUnet CZ status: Registry of last resort person: Jiri Orsag address: University of Chemical Technology address: Technicka 5 address: Prague 6 address: 166 28 country: Czech Republic (cz) phone: +42 2 3323242 fax-no: +42 2 24310646 e-mail: hostmaster at vscht.cz ripe-111.txt cz - 10 - de Registries in GERMANY (de) org: BelWue status: Service Provider person: Peter Merdian address: Science Network of the Federal State of Baden-Wuerttemberg address: Universitaet Stuttgart address: Rechenzentrum address: Allmandring 30 address: D-70550 Stuttgart 80 country: Germany (de) phone: +49 711 1319 129 fax-no: +49 711 682357 e-mail: merdian at RUS.Uni-Stuttgart.D400.DE org: DFN status: Service Provider person: Juergen Rauschenbach address: Pariser Strasse 44 address: D-10707 Berlin country: Germany (de) phone: +49 30 884299 46 fax-no: +49 30 884299 70 e-mail: jrau at DFN.DE org: EUnet DE status: Service Provider person: Andreas Schachtner address: Emil-Figge-Str. 80 address: D-44227 Dortmund country: Germany (de) phone: +49 231 972 00 fax-no: +49 231 972 1111 e-mail: Hostmaster at Germany.EU.net org: MAZ CLS Internet Services status: Service Provider person: Wiljo Heinen address: Commercial Link Systems address: Sternstr. 2 address: D-24116 Kiel country: Germany phone: +49 431 9790161 fax-no: +49 431 978126 e-mail: Heinen at cls.net ripe-111.txt de - 11 - de org: XLINK status: Service Provider person: Arnold Nipper address: NTG Netwerk und Telematic GmbH address: Geschaeftsbereich XLINK address: Vincenz-Priessnitz-Str. 3 address: D-76131 Karlsruhe country: Germany (de) phone: +49 721 9652 0 fax-no: +49 721 9652 10 e-mail: nipper at xlink.net The last resort registry in GERMANY is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: DE-NIC status: Registry of Last Resort person: Sabine Dolderer person: Andreas Knocke address: Universitaet Karlsruhe address: Rechenzentrum / DE-NIC address: Postfach 6980 address: D-76128 Karlsruhe country: Germany (de) phone: +49 721 373723 fax-no: +49 721 32550 e-mail: hostmaster at nic.de ripe-111.txt de - 12 - dk Registries in DENMARK (dk) org: DENet DK status: Service Provider person: Erik Lawaetz person: Steen Linden address: UNI-C - Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education address: DTH, Building 305 address: DK-2800 Lyngby country: Denmark (dk) phone: +45 42 88 39 99 ext. 2018 phone: +45 45 93 83 55 fax-no: +45 45 93 02 20 e-mail: Steen.Linden at uni-c.dk org: DKnet status: Service Provider person: Robert Martin-Legene address: Fruebjergvej 3 address: 2100 Koebenhavn OE country: Denmark (dk) phone: +45 39 17 99 00 fax-no: +45 31 20 55 21 e-mail: nic at dknet.dk org: NORDUnet status: Service Provider person: Peter Villemoes address: c/o UNI-C address: Bygn. 305, DTH address: DK-2800 Lyngby country: Denmark (dk) phone: +45 45 938355 fax: +45 45 930220 e-mail: Peter.Villemoes at uni-c.dk The last resort registry in DENMARK is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: DKnet status: Registry of Last Resort person: Robert Martin-Legene address: Fruebjergvej 3 address: DK-2100 Copenhagen O/ country: Denmark (dk) phone: +45 39 17 99 00 fax-no: +45 31 20 55 21 e-mail: nic at dknet.dk ripe-111.txt dk - 13 - ee Registries in ESTONIA (ee) The last resort registry in ESTONIA is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: EE-NIC status: Registry of Last Resort person: Jaak Lippmaa address: Institute of Chemical Physics and Biophysics address: 10 Ravala Blvd. address: EE0001 Tallinn country: Estonia (ee) phone: +372-2-441304 fax-no: +372-2-440640 e-mail: jack at anubis.kbfi.ee ripe-111.txt ee - 14 - es Registries in SPAIN (es) org: EUnet ES/ Goya Servicios Telematicos, S.A. status: Service Provider person: Juan-Antonio Esteban (Business Manager) person: Inmaculada Pindado (Technical Manager) address: Goya Servicios Telematicos, S.A. address: C/ Clara del Rey 8, 1-7 address: E-28002 Madrid country: Spain (es) phone: +34 1 413 48 56 fax-no: +34 1 413 49 01 e-mail: request at Spain.EU.net e-mail: jae at Spain.EU.net e-mail: inma at Spain.EU.net org: RedIRIS-CSIC status: Service Provider person: Miguel A. Sanz person: Susana Gayo address: Serrano 142 address: 28006 Madrid country: Spain (es) phone: +34 1 5855150 fax-no: +34 1 5855146 e-mail: nic at rediris.es The last resort registry in SPAIN is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: RedIRIS-CSIC status: Registry of Last Resort person: Miguel A. Sanz person: Susana Gayo address: Serrano 142 address: 28006 Madrid country: Spain (es) phone: +34 1 5855150 fax-no: +34 1 5855146 e-mail: nic at rediris.es ripe-111.txt es - 15 - fi Registries in FINLAND (fi) org: DATANET status: Service Provider person: Seppo Noppari address: Telecom Finland address: Data Services address: PO BOX 228 address: 33101 TAMPERE country: Finland (fi) phone: + 358 31 243 2242 phone: + 358 400 625 470 fax-no: + 358 243 2211 e-mail: son at tele.fi org: Finnish educational network (non-academic) status: Enterprise Registry person: Jarmo Miettinen person: Riku Kalinen address: Suomen Tietoverkkopalvelu Inc address: Toinen linja 14 address: 00530 HELSINKI country: Finland phone: +358 0 7712665 fax-no: +358 0 7712317 email: Jarmo.Miettinen at juha.fi org: EUnet FI status: Service Provider person: Petri Helenius address: EUnet Finland OY address: Punavuorenkatu 1 address: FI-00120 Helsinki country: Finland (fi) phone: +358 0 400 2060 phone: +358 49 425 722 fax-no: +358 0 622 2626 e-mail: helpdesk at eunet.fi org: FUNET FI status: Service Provider person: Jyrki Soini address: Finnish University and Research Network address: c/o Center for Scientific Computing address: P.O.Box 405 address: FIN-02101 ESPOO country: Finland (fi) phone: +358 0 457 2704 fax: +358 0 457 2302 e-mail: Jyrki.Soini at funet.fi ripe-111.txt fi - 16 - fi org: The Helsinki Telephone co. status: Service Provider person: E Salopuro address: Helsingin Puhelinyhdistys address: SO A508B address: PL 148, 00131 Helsinki country: Finland (fi) phone: +35 8 06063160 fax-no: +35 8 07011649 e-mail: org: Oulu Telephone Company status: Service Provider person: Karttunen Jari Juha address: P.O. Box 30 address: SF-90101 Oulu country: Finland (fi) phone: +358 81 3134520 fax-no: +358 81 371057 e-mail: jjk at cs.tut.fi The last resort registry in FINLAND is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: EUnet FI Ltd status: Registry of Last Resort person: Petri Helenius address: EUnet Finland OY address: Punavuorenkatu 1 address: FI-00120 Helsinki country: Finland (fi) phone: +358 0 400 2060 phone: +358 49 425 722 fax-no: +358 0 622 2626 e-mail: helpdesk at eunet.fi ripe-111.txt fi - 17 - fr Registries in FRANCE (fr) org: INRIA EUnet France status: Service Provider person: Annie Renard address: Centre De Rocquencourt address: Domaine De Voluceau, BP 105, F-78153 address: Le Chesnay CEDEX country: France (fr) phone: +33 1 39 63 56 23 fax-no: +33 1 39 63 55 34 email: Annie.Renard at inria.fr org: La Francaise des Jeux status: Enterprise Registry person: Antoine de Boutray address: La Francaise des Jeux address: 77230 Moussy-le-Vieux country: France phone: +33 1 64 66 67 65 fax-no: +33 1 64 66 66 52 e-mail: org: OLEANE status: Service Provider person: Jean-Michel Planche address: 35 Boulevard de la Liberation address: VINCENNES address: Paris, F-94300 country: France phone: +33 1 43 28 32 32 fax-no: +33 1 43 28 46 21 email: jmp at apysoft.oleane.com org: France Telecom status: Enterprise Registry person: Robert Benchimol address: DSI/SSPT address: Direction Generale address: Direction de Systeme d'Information address: 33, Avenue Du Maine address: 75755 Paris Cedex 15 country: France (fr) phone: +33 1 45 38 21 56 fax-no: +33 1 45 38 25 88 ripe-111.txt fr - 18 - fr org: TRANSPAC France status: Service Provider person: Gilles Antoine address: Tour Montparnasse B13 address: 33 Avenue du Maine address: 75755 Paris Cedex 15 country: France phone: +33 1 45 38 88 67 fax-no: +33 1 45 38 71 47 email: dage at transpac.fr The last resort registry in FRANCE is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: INRIA EUnet France status: Registry of Last Resort person: Annie Renard address: Centre De Rocquencourt address: Domaine De Voluceau, BP 105, F-78153 address: Le Chesnay CEDEX country: France (fr) phone: +33 1 39 63 56 23 fax-no: +33 1 39 63 55 34 email: Annie.Renard at inria.fr ripe-111.txt fr - 19 - gr Registries in GREECE (gr) org: EUnet GR status: Service Provider person: S. Sartzetakis address: Foundation of Research and Technology Hellas address: Computer Science Institute address: Daidalou 36, P.O. Box 1385, address: Heraklion, Crete country: Greece 71110 (gr) phone: +30 81 221171 e-mail: stelios at csi.forth.gr The last resort registry in GREECE is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: FORTH status: Registry of Last Resort person: S. Sartzetakis address: Foundation of Research and Technology Hellas address: Computer Science Institute address: Daidalou 36, P.O. Box 1385, address: Heraklion, Crete country: Greece 71110 (gr) phone: +30 81 221171 e-mail: stelios at csi.forth.gr ripe-111.txt gr - 20 - hr Registries in CROATIA (local name: Hrvatska) (hr) The last resort registry in CROATIA (local name: Hrvatska) is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: CARNet status: Registry of Last Resort person: Ivan Maric address: Croatian Academic and Research Network address: J.Marohnica bb address: Zagreb country: Croatia phone: +38 41 510-033 fax-no: +38 41 518-451 e-mail: ivan at smile.srce.hr ripe-111.txt hr - 21 - hu Registries in HUNGARY (hu) The last resort registry in HUNGARY is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: SZTAKI status: Registry of Last Resort person: Nandor Horvath address: H-1132 Budapest address: Victor Hugo Str. 18-22 address: Budapest country: Hungary (hu) phone: +36 1 1497986 fax-no: +36 1 1297866 e-mail: hostmaster at sztaki.hu ripe-111.txt hu - 22 - ie Registries in IRELAND (ie) org: EUnet IE status: Provider person: Michael Nowlan address: O'Reilly Institute address: Trinity College address: Dublin 2 country: Ireland (ie) phone: +353 1 671 9361 phone: +353 1 702 1787 fax-no: +353 1 677 2204 e-mail: mn at dec4ie.ieunet.ie org: HEAnet status: Provider person: Mike Norris address: 21 Fitzwilliam Square address: Dublin 2 country: Ireland (ie) phone: +353 1 6612748 fax: +353 1 6610492 e-mail: mnorris at hea.ie The last resort registry in IRELAND is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: IE EUnet status: Registry of Last Resort person: Michael Nowlan address: O'Reilly Institute address: Trinity College address: Dublin 2 country: Ireland (ie) phone: +353 1 671 9361 phone: +353 1 702 1787 fax-no: +353 1 677 2204 e-mail: mn at dec4ie.ieunet.ie ripe-111.txt ie - 23 - il Registries in ISRAEL (il) org: Computer Centre of Tel-Aviv University status: Provider person: Hank Nussbacher address: Tel-Aviv University address: Ramat-Aviv country: Israel (il) phone: +972 3 6408309 fax-no: +972 3 6409118 e-mail: hank at vm.tau.ac.il The last resort registry in ISRAEL is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: Computer Centre of Tel-Aviv University status: Registry of Last Resort person: Hank Nussbacher address: Tel-Aviv University address: Ramat-Aviv country: Israel (il) phone: +972 3 6408309 fax-no: +972 3 6409118 e-mail: hank at vm.tau.ac.il ripe-111.txt il - 24 - is Registries in ICELAND (is) org: SURIS-ISnet/IS EUnet status: Provider person: Marius Olafsson address: University of Iceland address: Taeknigardi address: Dunhaga 5, 107 Reykjavik country: Iceland (is) phone: +354 1 694747 fax-no: +354 1 28801 e-mail: marius at rhi.hi.is The last resort registry in ICELAND is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: SURIS-ISnet/IS EUnet status: Registry of Last Resort person: Marius Olafsson address: University of Iceland address: Taeknigardi address: Dunhaga 5, 107 Reykjavik country: Iceland (is) phone: +354 1 694747 fax-no: +354 1 28801 e-mail: marius at rhi.hi.is ripe-111.txt is - 25 - it Registries in ITALY (it) org: EUnet Italy status: Provider person: Alessandro Berni address: Universita' di Genova address: DIST address: Via Opera Pia 11A address: I-16145 Genova country: Italy (it) phone: +39 10 353-2747 fax-no: +39 10 353-2948 e-mail: hostmaster at Italy.eu.net org: GARR Italian Research and Academic Network status: Provider person: Antonio_Blasco Bonito address: GARR-NIS address: c/o CNUCE Istituto del CNR address: Via Santa Maria, 36 address: I-56126 Pisa country: Italy (it) phone: +39 50 593360 fax-no: +39 50 904052 e-mail: info at nis.garr.it The last resort registry in ITALY is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: GARR Network Information Service status: Registry of Last Resort person: Antonio_Blasco Bonito address: c/o CNUCE Istituto del CNR address: Via Santa Maria, 36 address: I-56126 Pisa country: Italy (it) phone: +39 50 593360 fax-no: +39 50 904052 e-mail: info at nis.garr.it ripe-111.txt it - 26 - lu Registries in LUXEMBOURG (lu) org: EUnet LU status: Provider person: Jacques Kirsch address: CRP-CU address: 162a, Avenue De La Faiencerie country: L- 1511 Luxemburg (lu) phone: +352 47 02 61 fax-no: +352 47 02 64 e-mail: kirsch at stein.crpcu.lu There is currently no last resort registry in LUXEMBOURG. Please contact the NCC if you do not have another registry to turn to. ripe-111.txt lu - 27 - mk Registries in MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF (mk) org: MARNET SI status: Provider person: Oliver Popov address: Ministry of Science of Macedonia (MARNET Committee) address: Bihacka 8 address: 91000, Skopje country: Macedonia (mk) phone: +38 91 238610 fax-no: +38 91 235573 e-mail: pmfoliver%nubsk at uni-lj.si There is currently no last resort registry in MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF. Please contact the NCC if you do not have another registry to turn to. ripe-111.txt mk - 28 - nl Registries in NETHERLANDS (nl) org: Ericsson Data Services person: Monica Bouchibane status: Enterprise Registry address: Ericsson Data Services Nederland address: P.O. Box 209, 5120 AE Rijen address: Netherlands phone: +31 1612 29473 fax-no: +31 1612 29071 e-mail: monica at netman.ericsson.se org: IBM Information Network status: Service Provider person: Henk Hofs address: INSC Service Architecture address: Boerhaavelaan 11 address: 2713 HA Zoetermeer address: The Netherlands phone: +31 79 223364 fax-no: +31 79 224406 e-mail: hofs at vnet.ibm.com org: NLnet status: Provider person: Martijn Roos Lindgreen address: Kruislaan 413 address: NL-1098 SJ Amsterdam country: The Netherlands (nl) phone: +31 20 5924245 fax-no: +31 20 5924199 e-mail: martijn at nl.net org: PHILIPS status: Provider person: Huub Sanders address: Philips Communications & Processing, MPN address: Building VN-515 address: NL-5600 MD Eindhoven country: The Netherlands (nl) phone: +31 40 786000 e-mail: sanders at seri.philips.nl org: SURFnet bv status: Provider person: Erik Jan-Bos address: P.O. Box 19035 address: NL - 3501 DA Utrecht country: The Netherlands (nl) phone: +31 30 310290 fax-no: +31 30 340903 e-mail: netmaster at surfnet.nl ripe-111.txt nl - 29 - nl org: Unisource Business Networks (for EMPB) status: Provider person: Harold Rolfes address: PO Box 90934 address: NL-2509 LX The Hague country: The Netherlands (nl) phone: +31 70 371 1151 fax-no: +31 70 371 1338 e-mail: surf030 at kub.nl The last resort registry in NETHERLANDS is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: SURFnet bv status: Registry of Last Resort person: Erik Jan-Bos address: P.O. Box 19035 address: NL - 3501 DA Utrecht country: The Netherlands (nl) phone: +31 30 310290 fax-no: +31 30 340903 e-mail: netmaster at surfnet.nl ripe-111.txt nl - 30 - no Registries in NORWAY (no) org: DAXNET status: Service Provider person: Tore Rasmussen person: Sigurd Romslo address: Scandinavian Airlines Data address: Fornebuveien 40 address: N-1330 Oslo Lufthavn address: Norway phone: ne: +47 67 59 65 14 fax-no: +47 67 59 77 77 e-mail: tore at nic.dax.net org: EUnet Norway status: Provider person: Arne Asplem address: Forskningsparken address: Gaustadallen 21 address: N-0371 Oslo country: Norway (no) phone: +47-22-958327 fax-no: +47-22-604427 e-mail: aras at norway.eu.net org: TelePost Communication AS status: Service Provider person: Gunn Skogseth address: P.O.Box 335, Skoyen address: N-0212 Oslo country: Norway (no) phone: +47 22 73 37 00 fax-no: +47 22 73 37 10 e-mail: Gunn.Skogseth at telepost.telemax.no org: UNINETT (NO) status: Provider person: Havard Eidnes address: SINTEF Runit address: N-7034 Trondheim country: Norway (no) phone: +47 7 594468 fax-no: +47 7 941700 e-mail: Havard.Eidnes at runit.sintef.no ripe-111.txt no - 31 - no The last resort registry in NORWAY is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: UNINETT status: Registry of Last Resort person: Havard Eidnes address: SINTEF Runit address: N-7034 Trondheim country: Norway (no) phone: +47 73 59 44 68 fax-no: +47 73 59 17 00 e-mail: Havard.Eidnes at runit.sintef.no ripe-111.txt no - 32 - pl Registries in POLAND (pl) org: EUnet PL status: Provider person: Michael Bielicki address: PL-net sp. z o.o. (Ltd) address: c/o FPE, ul. Dluga 5 address: PL-00-263 Warszawa country: Poland (pl) phone: +48 2 635 63 86 fax-no: +48 2 635 63 86 e-mail: misio at plnet.uucp org: NASK Research and Academic Networks in Poland status: Provider person: Ireneusz Neska address: Bartycka 18 address: PL-00-927 Warsaw country: Poland (pl) phone: +48 22 268000 fax-no: +48 22 268000 e-mail: irek at nask.org.pl The last resort registry in POLAND is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: NASK Research and Academic Networks in Poland status: Registry of Last Resort person: Ireneusz Neska address: Bartycka 18 address: PL-00-927 Warsaw country: Poland (pl) phone: +48 22 268000 fax-no: +48 22 268000 e-mail: irek at nask.org.pl ripe-111.txt pl - 33 - pt Registries in PORTUGAL (pt) org: EUnet PT status: Provider person: Jose Legatheaux Martins address: Portuguese Unix User's Group address: C/o UNINOVA - Quinta da Torre address: P-2825 Monte da Caparica country: Portugal (pt) phone: +351 1 294 28 44 fax-no: +351 1 295 77 86 e-mail: jalm at portugal.eu.net org: RCCN status: Provider person: Graca Carvalho address: Fundacao Calculo Cientifico Nacional (FCCN) address: Rede da Comunidade Cientifica Nacional address: Av. do Brasil, 101 address: P-1799 Lisboa Codex country: Portugal (pt) phone: +351 1 848 1906 fax-no: +351 1 847 2167 e-mail: graca at rccn.net The last resort registry in PORTUGAL is listed below. Please con- tact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: FCCN status: Registry of Last Resort person: Graca Carvalho address: Fundacao Calculo Cientifico Nacional (FCCN) address: Av. do Brasil, 101 address: P-1799 Lisboa Codex country: Portugal (pt) phone: +351 1 848 1906 fax-no: +351 1 847 2167 e-mail: graca at rccn.net ripe-111.txt pt - 34 - ro Registries in ROMANIA (ro) org: EARN status: Service Provider person: Eugen Staicut address: Research Institute for Informatics address: Bd. Miciurin 8-10, Sector 1 address: Bucharest 71316 country: Romania (ro) phone: +40-0-652560 fax-no: +40-0-128539 e-mail: staicut at edvz.uni-linz.ac.at There is currently no last resort registry in ROMANIA. Please con- tact the NCC if you do not have another registry to turn to. ripe-111.txt ro - 35 - ru Registries in RUSSIAN FEDERATION (ru) The last resort registry in RUSSIAN FEDERATION is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: Rosniiros status: Registry of Last Resort person: Serge V. Turchin person: Oleg Tabarovsky address: 1, Kurchatov sq. address: 123182 Moscow country: Russia (ru) phone: +7 095 1967278 fax-no: +7 095 1964984 email: ncc at ussr.eu.net remarks: serves Russia and all former SU countries except the Russian remarks: Federation for as long as they do not have their own local-IR ripe-111.txt ru - 36 - se Registries in SWEDEN (se) org: Electrolux status: Enterprise Registry person: Michael Winberg person: Bernt Glans address: Electrolux Data AB address: Global Data Network for Electrolux. address: S-105 45 Stockholm address: SWEDEN phone: +46 8 738 60 00 ext. 7439 fax-no: +46 8 656 41 19 org: Lund University status: Enterprise Registry person: Jens Andersson address: Lunds Datacentral/Datakommunikation address: Lunds Universitet address: Box 783, S-220 07 Lund country: Sweden phone: +46 46 104725 fax-no: +46 46 138225 email: Jens.Andersson at ldc.lu.se org: SWIPNET AB status: Provider person: Olle Wallner person: Jorgen Eriksson address: Box 6048 address: S-164 06 Kista country: Sweden (se) phone: +46 8 924040 (Jorgen Eriksson) phone: +46 8 934040 (Olle Wallner) e-mail: eri at swip.net org: TRANSPAC Scandinavia AB status: Service Provider person: Sixten Bjorklund person: Bjorn Sjoholm address: Transpac Scandinavia A address: S-112 89 Stockholm country: Sweden phone: +46 8 13 60 38 fax-no: +46 8 656 73 20 email: bear at upsys.se ripe-111.txt se - 37 - se org: Unisource Business Networks status: Provider person: Hakan Hansson address: c/o Unidata IP services TIPnet NCC address: Kaserntorget 11, 4th fl address: S-40335 GOTEBORG country: Sweden (se) phone: +46 31 7708485 fax-no: +46 31 112800 e-mail: ncc at tip.net The last resort registry in SWEDEN is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: SUNET/NORDUnet status: Registry of Last Resort person: Bjorn Eriksen address: Royal Institute of Technology address: S-100 44 Stockholm country: Sweden (se) phone: +46 8 7906513 fax-no: +46 8 24 11 79 e-mail: ber at sunet.se e-mail: hostmaster at sunet.se ripe-111.txt se - 38 - si Registries in SLOVENIA (si) org: ARNES status: Provider person: Avgust Jauk person: Marko Bonac address: Jamova 39 address: 61 111 Ljubljana country: Slovenia (si) phone: +386 61 1259 199 ext. or 256 fax-no: +386 61 219 385 e-mail: jauk at arnes.si org: EIGER-EBONE status: Provider person: Darko Bulat person Boris Horvat address: ABM-BBS address: Veselova 19 address: SI-61000 Ljubljana country: Slovenia phone: +386 61 219367 fax-no: +386 61 1252107 e-mail: darko.bulat at eiger.bbs.mail.si org: EUnet SI status: Provider person: Ivan Pepelnjak person Damjan Podbregar address: NIL Systems Integration and Consulting Ltd. address: Leskoskova 4 address: 61000 Ljubljana country: Slovenia (si) phone: +386 61 1405 183 fax-no: +381 61 1405 381 e-mail: Ivan.Pepelnjak at nil.si e-mail: Damjan.Podbregar at nil.si The last resort registry in SLOVENIA is listed below. Please con- tact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: ARNES status: Registry of Last Resort person: Avgust Jauk person: Marko Bonac address: Jamova 39 address: 61 111 Ljubljana country: Slovenia (si) phone: +386 61 1259 199 ext. or 256 fax-no: +386 61 219 385 e-mail: jauk at arnes.si ripe-111.txt si - 39 - si Registries in SLOVAKIA (Slovak Republic) (sk) org: EUnet Slovakia status: Provider person: Ivan Lescak address: c/o Comenius University Bratislava address: Faculty of Mathematics and Physics, Computing centre address: Mlynska dolina address: Bratislava, 842 15 country: Slovakia (sk) phone: +42 7 725 306 fax-no: +42 7 725 882 e-mail: ivan at Slovakia.EU.net There is currently no last resort registry in SLOVAKIA (Slovak Republic). Please contact the NCC if you do not have another regis- try to turn to. ripe-111.txt sk - 40 - tr Registries in TURKEY (tr) The last resort registry in TURKEY is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: Turkey status: Registry of Last Resort person: Attila Ozgit address: Middle East Technical University address: Computer Center address: Inonu Bulvari, 06531 address: Ankara country: Turkiye (tr) phone: +90 4 210 1000 ext:2091-2092 fax-no: +90 4 210 1120 e-mail: ozgit at trmetu.bitnet e-mail: ozgit at letoon.cc.metu.edu.tr ripe-111.txt tr - 41 - ua Registries in UKRAINE (ua) The last resort registry in UKRAINE is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. Org: Institute for Condensed Matter Physics status: Registry of last Resort person: Alexander Saban address: Institute for Condensed Matter Physics address: 1 Svientsitskii Street, Lviv, 290011, address: Ukraine (ua) phone: +7 0322 761978 fax: +7 0322 761978 e-mail: saban at icmp.lviv.ua ripe-111.txt ua - 42 - uk Registries in THE UNITED KINGDOM (uk) org: CNS status: Provider person: Ian Harding address: Brooklands Close address: Sunbury-on-Thames address: TW16 7DX country: United Kingdom (uk) phone: +44 932 814 800 fax: +44 932 814 808 e-mail: cns at chernikeeff.co.uk org: DEMON status: Provider person: Cliff Stanford address: 42 Hendon Lane, Finchley, address: London, N3 1TT country: United Kingdom (uk) phone: +44 81 349 0063 fax-no: +44 81 349 0309 e-mail: postmaster at demon.co.uk org: ENERGIS status: Enterprise Registry person: Ken Punshon address: 50 Victoria Embankment address: London EC4Y 0DE country: England phone: +44 71 936 5697 fax-no: +44 71 936 5679 e-mail: punshon at enet.dec.com org: EUnet GB (GBnet Ltd) descr: (formerly UKnet) status: Commercial IP service provider person: Roy Hills person: James Aldridge person: Peter Houlder address: Kent R & D Business Centre address: Off Giles Lane address: Canterbury, CT2 7PB address: England country: United Kingdom (uk) phone: +44 227 475497 fax-no: +44 227 475478 e-mail: postmaster at britain.eu.net ripe-111.txt uk - 43 - uk org: Genesis Project Limited status: Service provider person: Dermot J Bradley person: Dale M Amon address: International Trade Centre Belfast address: Interpoint address: 20-24 York Street address: Belfast address: Northern Ireland country: United Kingdom (uk) phone: +44 232 681919 fax-no: +44 232 681919 e-mail: bradley at cs.qub.ac.uk org: UK HEP Community status: Enterprise Registry person: Jason Leake address: Rutherford Appleton Laboratory address: Chilton, Didcot address: Oxon OX11 0QX address: United Kingdom phone: +44 235 446348 fax-no: +44 235 446733 e-mail: leake at v2.rl.ac.uk org: AT&T Istel status: Service Provider person: John O'Hare address: AT&T Istel Limited address: CDC PO Box 5 address: North Moons Moat, Redditch address: Worcs, B98 9HB country: England phone: +44 527 28515 fax-no: +44 527 510298 email: org: JANET NOSC status Provider person: Duncan Rogerson person: Kevin Hoadley address: 20 Guilford Street address: London WC1N 1DZ country: United Kingdom (uk) phone: +44 71 405 8400 fax-no: +44 71 242 1845 e-mail: hostmaster at nic.ja.net ripe-111.txt uk - 44 - uk org: GEC Marconi Group status: Enterprise Registry person: P Stephenson person: Mr C J Helks address: GEC Computer Services Ltd. address: The Hollies address: Newport Road address: Stafford ST16 IBY country: United Kingdom (uk) phone: +44 785 48131 Ex 229 phone: +44 785 48131 Ex 297 fax: +44 785 211148 e-mail: gecmar/G=Chris/S=Helks/O=GEC_Computer_Services_Ltd/OU=Network_Support at mhs.at tmail.com remarks: Registry for all GEC Marconi Companies org: Mercury Communications Ltd (UK) status: Service Provider person: Richard Sizeland address: Data Network Services address: 1 Riverbank Way address: Great West Road address: Brentford address: Middlesex TW8 9RS country: United Kingdom (uk) phone: +44 81 914 6174 fax-no: +44 81 914 6040 e-mail: org: PIPEX status: Provider person: Keith Mitchell address: PIPEX Ltd address: 216 Cambridge Science Park address: Milton Road address: Cambridge address: CB4 4WA country: United Kingdom (uk) phone: +44 223 250120 fax-no: +44 223 250121 e-mail: hostmaster at pipex.net org: RACAL Network Services status: Service Provider person: Steve Ridewood address: Oakwood address: Chineham Business Park address: Crockford Lane address: Basingstoke address: Hampshire RG24 0TT country: United Kingdom (uk) phone: +44 256 469334 fax-no: +44 256 700110 e-mail: sridewood at cix.compulink.co.uk ripe-111.txt uk - 45 - uk org: Trafalgar House Engineering status: Enterprise Registry person: Steven Thompson person: Emma Bartlett address: John Brown International Network address: 20 Eastbourne Terrace address: Paddington, London W2 6LE country: England phone: +44 71 957 3084 fax-no: +44 71 724 8067 The last resort registry in THE UNITED KINGDOM is listed below. Please contact them if you do not have another registry to turn to. org: JANET NOSC status: Registry of Last Resort person: Duncan Rogerson person: Kevin Hoadley address: 20 Guilford Street address: London WC1N 1DZ country: United Kingdom (uk) phone: +44 71 405 8400 fax-no: +44 71 242 1845 e-mail: hostmaster at nic.ja.net ripe-111.txt uk From Tony.Bates at ripe.net Fri Apr 15 13:13:57 1994 From: Tony.Bates at ripe.net (Tony Bates) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:13:57 +0200 Subject: Corrupted data In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:05:20 MDT. Message-ID: <9404151113.AA08494@fs1.ripe.net> Following on from the mail yesterday about errors in aut-num objects in the database. Please find a new set of database errors on ftp.ripe.net:ripe/dbase/errors/* -rw-r--r-- 1 tony dbase 0 Apr 15 11:59 as-macro.errors -rw-r--r-- 1 tony dbase 5319 Apr 15 11:55 aut-num.errors -rw-r--r-- 1 tony dbase 0 Apr 15 11:58 bdry-gw.errors -rw-r--r-- 1 tony dbase 0 Apr 15 12:00 community.errors -rw-r--r-- 1 tony dbase 0 Apr 15 12:01 dom-prefix.errors -rw-r--r-- 1 tony dbase 103796 Apr 15 12:06 domain.errors -rw-r--r-- 1 tony dbase 58285 Apr 15 12:46 inetnum.errors -rw-r--r-- 1 tony dbase 320852 Apr 15 12:38 person.errors -rw-r--r-- 1 tony dbase 0 Apr 15 12:00 rout-pr.errors As you can see person has the most errors. Please can all (especialy local-irs take a look at these files and correct where possible. Here's a summary of the amount of errors over what is in the database. Object Number in DB Number in Error aut-num 322 11 domain 3222 354 inetnum 16107 176 person 16366 1072 Please look at these files. Remember many of the errors are where mandatoy fields are not in the object rather than syntax errors. The next round will be to start chasing people individually. Thanks, --Tony. From ncc at ripe.net Fri Apr 15 13:46:41 1994 From: ncc at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Staff) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:46:41 +0200 Subject: Local IR workshop May 16th Message-ID: <9404151146.AA04081@mellow.ripe.net> Dear All, The second Local IR workshop will be held in Amsterdam on the first day of the next RIPE meeting: May 16th, from 10 am - 12.30pm. Further details including registration forms, will be announced next week. Regards, Anne From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Fri Apr 15 14:14:46 1994 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:14:46 +0200 Subject: Internet Registry Object Message-ID: <9404151214.AA12109@reif.ripe.net> I have an action to propose a "registry" object for the RIPE database. Defining such an object is not so much of a problem. In fact we already have the information needed in tagged format. Look at the Irish Internet registries as an example: org: EUnet IE status: Provider person: Michael Nowlan address: O'Reilly Institute address: Trinity College address: Dublin 2 country: Ireland (ie) phone: +353 1 671 9361 phone: +353 1 702 1787 fax-no: +353 1 677 2204 e-mail: mn at dec4ie.ieunet.ie org: HEAnet status: Provider person: Mike Norris address: 21 Fitzwilliam Square address: Dublin 2 country: Ireland (ie) phone: +353 1 6612748 fax: +353 1 6610492 e-mail: mnorris at hea.ie org: IE EUnet status: Registry of Last Resort person: Michael Nowlan address: O'Reilly Institute address: Trinity College address: Dublin 2 country: Ireland (ie) phone: +353 1 671 9361 phone: +353 1 702 1787 fax-no: +353 1 677 2204 e-mail: mn at dec4ie.ieunet.ie However putting this in the database is not all. We need to define a querying mechanism. This is where the problem starts. Options: 1) Return all the regsitries on queries for the country code together with the toplevel domain object. 2) Return all registries on queries for "cc-reg" or some such magic. 3) Add a special flag to whois to query for registries. All these options are not very applealing because all of them have a big potential for user confusion. Also I am convinced that this information should always be presented together with some information about what a local registry is and what it is not. What did we want to achieve by putting this information in the database? - easy updates via the normal means - access to up to date information at all times between publications of the local registry list We can achieve the -more important- second goal by making this information available via the RIPE document store together with the explanatory information. This could be implemented quickly (before the RIPE meeting). The first goal cannot be achieved that way. But since the amount of info and changes is expected to be small, the NCC can process update requests manually. So my conclusion is not to include this in the database but in the document store. If I have not considered some important argument, please let me know pricately or via a discussion on these lists. If there is consensus we will implement it that way. Daniel From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Mon Apr 18 13:02:53 1994 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:02:53 +0200 Subject: NCC Service During Public Holidays in May Message-ID: <9404181102.AA18931@reif.ripe.net> As usual in May there are a number of public holidays and days during which our campus is closed. For your information here is how this will affect NCC service: 5 May reduced service Bevrijdingsdag 12 May closed Ascension day 13 May reduced service campus closed 23 May closed 2e Pinksterdag Reduced service means that response times may be longer than you expect and that you may get an answering machine when you call. Also please bear with us during the days following these as we process any backlogs. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Regards Daniel Karrenberg RIPE NCC Manager From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Mon Apr 18 13:02:53 1994 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:02:53 +0200 Subject: NCC Service During Public Holidays in May Message-ID: <9404181109.AA18972@reif.ripe.net> As usual in May there are a number of public holidays and days during which our campus is closed. For your information here is how this will affect NCC service: 5 May reduced service Bevrijdingsdag 12 May closed Ascension day 13 May reduced service campus closed 23 May closed 2e Pinksterdag Reduced service means that response times may be longer than you expect and that you may get an answering machine when you call. Also please bear with us during the days following these as we process any backlogs. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Regards Daniel Karrenberg RIPE NCC Manager From hostmaster at ripe.net Mon Apr 18 16:15:28 1994 From: hostmaster at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Hostmaster) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:15:28 +0200 Subject: Announce: New Registry of Last Resort Message-ID: <9404181415.AA08854@mellow.ripe.net> Dear All, There is now a Registry of Last Resort in Belgium. This service is being provided by Stephan Biesbroeck of Belnet. Our thanks to him. Below are the contact details: org: Belnet status: Registry of Last Resort person: Stephan Biesbroeck address: DPWB - SPPS address: Wetenschapsstraat 8 address: B-1040 Brussels country: Belgium (be) phone: +32 2 2383470 fax-no: +32 2 2311531 e-mail: ir at belnet.be Regards, Anne From robert at dknet.dk Mon Apr 18 19:36:58 1994 From: robert at dknet.dk (Robert Martin-Legene) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 19:36:58 MET DST Subject: Internet Registry Object In-Reply-To: <9404151214.AA12109@reif.ripe.net>; from "Daniel Karrenberg" at Apr 15, 94 2:14 pm Message-ID: <199404181736.AA26919@dkuug.dk> Daniel Karrenberg wrote: > >Defining such an object is not so much of a problem. In fact >we already have the information needed in tagged format. ... >Options: > >2) Return all registries on queries for "cc-reg" or some such magic. I think this would be a very nice way of getting up to date information. With the fast change in information I suppose exists in this field as everywhere else, it would be valuable with the correct information. "cc-reg" is fine with me. -- Robert Martin-Legene, = EUnet Denmark = DKnet, Fruebjergvej 3, DK-2100 Kobenhavn O, +45 39 17 99 00 From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Tue Apr 19 10:38:03 1994 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:38:03 +0200 Subject: Internet Registry Object In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 18 Apr 1994 19:36:58 +0700. <199404181736.AA26919@dkuug.dk> Message-ID: <9404190838.AA21184@reif.ripe.net> > Robert Martin-Legene writes: > Daniel Karrenberg wrote: > > > >Defining such an object is not so much of a problem. In fact > >we already have the information needed in tagged format. > > ... > > >Options: > > > >2) Return all registries on queries for "cc-reg" or some such magic. > > I think this would be a very nice way of getting up to date information. > With the fast change in information I suppose exists in this field as > everywhere else, it would be valuable with the correct information. > "cc-reg" is fine with me. Why not have this available via the document store? From woeber at cc.univie.ac.at Tue Apr 19 14:46:07 1994 From: woeber at cc.univie.ac.at (Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 13:46:07 +0100 Subject: Internet Registry Object Message-ID: <0097D312.EA162160.335@cc.univie.ac.at> Dear all, lend me a couple of minutes to describe my expectations, without going into technical implementation details, as described by Daniel below... 1. How about using proven and widely known tools and info-channels? For me this means putting objects into the database, and maybe having them guarded (for ease of update). I don't really believe in manual update procedures... Finding info should be possible both through the Interactive Info Service at the NCC, and probably through the WWW interface. 2. Lets investigate a setup, - where we get the over-all info from the document store (the envelope), - more details by looking into a WWW compound document and getting - the details dynamically out of the database (clicking on an item). Please feel free to give me a blow on the head... Cheers, Wilfried. ________________________________________________________________________________ Daniel said: I have an action to propose a "registry" object for the RIPE database. Defining such an object is not so much of a problem. In fact we already have the information needed in tagged format. Look at the Irish Internet registries as an example: org: EUnet IE status: Provider person: Michael Nowlan address: O'Reilly Institute address: Trinity College address: Dublin 2 country: Ireland (ie) phone: +353 1 671 9361 phone: +353 1 702 1787 fax-no: +353 1 677 2204 e-mail: mn at dec4ie.ieunet.ie org: HEAnet status: Provider person: Mike Norris address: 21 Fitzwilliam Square address: Dublin 2 country: Ireland (ie) phone: +353 1 6612748 fax: +353 1 6610492 e-mail: mnorris at hea.ie org: IE EUnet status: Registry of Last Resort person: Michael Nowlan address: O'Reilly Institute address: Trinity College address: Dublin 2 country: Ireland (ie) phone: +353 1 671 9361 phone: +353 1 702 1787 fax-no: +353 1 677 2204 e-mail: mn at dec4ie.ieunet.ie However putting this in the database is not all. We need to define a querying mechanism. This is where the problem starts. Options: 1) Return all the regsitries on queries for the country code together with the toplevel domain object. 2) Return all registries on queries for "cc-reg" or some such magic. 3) Add a special flag to whois to query for registries. All these options are not very applealing because all of them have a big potential for user confusion. Also I am convinced that this information should always be presented together with some information about what a local registry is and what it is not. What did we want to achieve by putting this information in the database? - easy updates via the normal means - access to up to date information at all times between publications of the local registry list We can achieve the -more important- second goal by making this information available via the RIPE document store together with the explanatory information. This could be implemented quickly (before the RIPE meeting). The first goal cannot be achieved that way. But since the amount of info and changes is expected to be small, the NCC can process update requests manually. So my conclusion is not to include this in the database but in the document store. If I have not considered some important argument, please let me know pricately or via a discussion on these lists. If there is consensus we will implement it that way. Daniel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from email.univie.ac.at by access.cc.univie.ac.at (MX V3.1) with SMTP; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:14:45 +0100 Received: from ncc.ripe.net by email.univie.ac.at with SMTP (PP) id <29896-0 at email.univie.ac.at>; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:14:59 +0200 Received: from reif.ripe.net by ncc.ripe.net with SMTP id AA27717 (5.65a/NCC-2.2); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:14:47 +0200 Received: from localhost.ripe.net by reif.ripe.net with SMTP id AA12109 (5.65a/NCC-2.1); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:14:47 +0200 Message-ID: <9404151214.AA12109 at reif.ripe.net> X-Organization: RIPE Network Coordination Centre X-Phone: +31 20 592 5065 Sender: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Tue Apr 19 17:22:44 1994 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 17:22:44 +0200 Subject: Internet Registry Object In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 18 Apr 1994 19:36:58 +0700. <199404181736.AA26919@dkuug.dk> Message-ID: <9404191522.AA22822@reif.ripe.net> > Robert Martin-Legene writes: > Daniel Karrenberg wrote: > > > >2) Return all registries on queries for "cc-reg" or some such magic. > > I think this would be a very nice way of getting up to date information. > With the fast change in information I suppose exists in this field as > everywhere else, it would be valuable with the correct information. > "cc-reg" is fine with me. The problem I have with this is that there might be other matches of cc-reg (like community and network names) and this might be confusing. Of course one can make rules about that but where does it end? Why can't we just have a directory (=menu, =selection) in the document store which has the most up-to-date data right there (to click on) and then once in a while publish the list as a RIPE document for historic reference and those who like paper? With 113 relatively stable entities I do not think that manual update by the NCC is a problem. Daniel PS: Also an answer to Wilfired's message. From woeber at cc.univie.ac.at Tue Apr 19 19:50:12 1994 From: woeber at cc.univie.ac.at (Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 18:50:12 +0100 Subject: Internet Registry Object Message-ID: <0097D33D.654B2B80.474@cc.univie.ac.at> >With 113 relatively stable entities I do not think that manual update >by the NCC is a problem. > >Daniel Daniel, if you want to handle the update manually, fine with me! Can we then use the ripe-dbm mailbox and use the tagged format you have already? E.g. let's assume my phone number changes and I update my person entry. Then it would be natural to think about having the same thing updated in the IR-entry. >PS: Also an answer to Wilfired's message. Thanks :-) Wilfried. From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Wed Apr 20 17:16:23 1994 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 17:16:23 +0200 Subject: Internet Registry Object In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 19 Apr 1994 18:50:12 BST. <0097D33D.654B2B80.474@cc.univie.ac.at> Message-ID: <9404201516.AA25666@reif.ripe.net> > "Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" writes: > if you want to handle the update manually, fine with me! I don't want to. It is just preventing even more work from confusion if we use the database. > Can we then use the ripe-dbm mailbox and use the tagged format you have > already? Yes you can. We advertise that changes should be sent to ncc at ripe.net, but those sent to ripe-dbm will find their way there. From robert at dknet.dk Wed Apr 20 17:35:38 1994 From: robert at dknet.dk (Robert Martin-Legene) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 17:35:38 MET DST Subject: Internet Registry Object In-Reply-To: <9404190838.AA21184@reif.ripe.net>; from "Daniel Karrenberg" at Apr 19, 94 10:38 am Message-ID: <199404201535.AA10119@dkuug.dk> Daniel Karrenberg wrote: > >Why not have this available via the document store? It seems like I have misunderstood you. I thought of the document store as ripe-docs, where the registry list would only be updated every 6 months or so. But if the document store is updated when people send in information, it's fine with me. -- Robert Martin-Legene, = EUnet Denmark = DKnet, Fruebjergvej 3, DK-2100 Kobenhavn O, +45 39 17 99 00 From hostmaster at ripe.net Fri Apr 22 13:39:26 1994 From: hostmaster at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Hostmaster) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 13:39:26 +0200 Subject: Alert: Harlow Butler Brokering Services Message-ID: <9404221139.AA03045@belegen.ripe.net> Dear Internet Registries, we have received some messages that Harlow Butler Brokering Services, an international stockbroker, might try to apply for more IP address space at easy local-IR individually because their request for an unjustified amount of address space has been denied. They are talking about going to the registeries in each country directly to circumvent this decision and try to collect address space this way. We would apreciate if any address assignement to this organisation would be handled with extreme discretion and we be notified of any requests from them, so we can coordinate an orderly process. Kind regards, Geert Jan de Groot RIPE NCC Hostmaster of the day. From kevin at nosc.ja.net Fri Apr 22 14:11:33 1994 From: kevin at nosc.ja.net (Kevin Hoadley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 13:11:33 +0100 Subject: Alert: Harlow Butler Brokering Services In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 22 Apr 1994 13:39:26 +0200." <9404221139.AA03045@belegen.ripe.net> Message-ID: <24005.767016693@nosc.ja.net> > we have received some messages that Harlow Butler Brokering Services, > an international stockbroker, might try to apply for more IP address > space at easy local-IR individually because their request for an > unjustified amount of address space has been denied. They are > talking about going to the registeries in each country directly > to circumvent this decision and try to collect address space this way. > > We would apreciate if any address assignement to this organisation > would be handled with extreme discretion and we be notified of any > requests from them, so we can coordinate an orderly process. Geert, With such a warning can we have details on names and addresses to look out for - I know of at least one company who tried to do this to us by using different trading names. Kevin Hoadley, JIPS NOSC - UK registry of last resort. From hostmaster at ripe.net Fri Apr 22 14:41:13 1994 From: hostmaster at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Hostmaster) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 14:41:13 +0200 Subject: Alert: Harlow Butler Brokering Services In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 22 Apr 1994 13:11:33 BST. <24005.767016693@nosc.ja.net> Message-ID: <9404221241.AA03218@belegen.ripe.net> Kevin Hoadley writes: * > we have received some messages that Harlow Butler Brokering Services, * > an international stockbroker, might try to apply for more IP address * > space at easy local-IR individually because their request for an * > unjustified amount of address space has been denied. They are * > talking about going to the registeries in each country directly * > to circumvent this decision and try to collect address space this way. * * With such a warning can we have details on names and addresses to look * out for - I know of at least one company who tried to do this to us by * using different trading names. Sorry about that - you are right. This is what I have: netname: HBBS descr: Harlow Butler Broking Services Ltd country: GB admin-c: Ash Vara tech-c: Ash Vara person: Ash Vara address: Harlow Butler Broking Services Ltd address: 8 Montague Close address: London Bridge address: London address: SE1 9RD address: England, GB phone: +44 71 407 5555 fax-no: +44 71 403 6635 Cheers, Geert Jan From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Mon Apr 25 16:49:43 1994 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 16:49:43 +0200 Subject: Chairman Resigns Message-ID: <9404251449.AA02221@reif.ripe.net> This is a message to the local-ir working group of RIPE. I am sorry but this coming meeting I have to definitely resign as the chairman of this group. There are two reasons: 1) I (still) do not think it is right that an NCCer chairs a this group. One of the missions of the group is to act as a pressure group towards the NCC. I have expressed this in the past but those present at that meeting forcefully :-) agreed that they were happy I agreed to stay on. Since the fact that I chair this group now has been used as one of the arguments to critisise the RIPE NCC management structure as a whole I have to resign. 2) The NCC is currently understaffed and any reduction in the load on all staff is welcome. So please be prepared that a new chairperson will have to be elected at the next meeting. Daniel From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Mon Apr 25 16:54:32 1994 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 16:54:32 +0200 Subject: Agenda of the local IR working group for the 18th meeting Message-ID: <9404251454.AA02242@reif.ripe.net> Draft Agenda for the Local IR working group at the 18th RIPE meeting 1. Agenda Bashing 2. Minutes of last meeting (already circulated) 3. Election of new chairperson 4. European Registry Report by the NCC 5. Reports of significant events at local registries 6. RFC1597 and its implications for local IRs (very short) 7. Funding of and Charging for local registry service 8. AoB Suggestions (for additional points) welcome. Daniel From mnorris at dalkey.hea.ie Tue Apr 26 10:53:18 1994 From: mnorris at dalkey.hea.ie (Mike Norris) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 09:53:18 +0100 Subject: Chairman Resigns In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 25 Apr 94 16:49:43 +0200." <9404251449.AA02221@reif.ripe.net> Message-ID: <9404260853.AA27576@dalkey.hea.ie> Daniel reluctantly I understand the arguments you make and it will be a real task for the group to find a new chairman. If you really plan to resign, could you put this as an item in the agenda for the WG meeting at RIPE 18; I for one would like to be able to record my thanks to your for your excellent work at chairman of the group. Cheers. Mike From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Tue Apr 26 13:02:06 1994 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 13:02:06 +0200 Subject: Chairman Resigns In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 26 Apr 1994 09:53:18 BST. <9404260853.AA27576@dalkey.hea.ie> Message-ID: <9404261102.AA04797@reif.ripe.net> > "Mike Norris" writes: > Daniel > reluctantly I understand the arguments you make and it > will be a real task for the group to find a new chairman. If > you really plan to resign, could you put this as an item in > the agenda for the WG meeting at RIPE 18; It is on as point 3 "Election of new chairperson". > I for one would > like to be able to record my thanks to your for your excellent > work at chairman of the group. Thank you. Daniel From woeber at cc.univie.ac.at Thu Apr 28 16:52:46 1994 From: woeber at cc.univie.ac.at (Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 15:52:46 +0100 Subject: Chairman Resigns Message-ID: <0097DA37.19B8B1A0.2243@cc.univie.ac.at> Daniel, >I am sorry but this coming meeting I have to definitely >resign as the chairman of this group. There are two reasons: If this is a final decision then we have to accept it :-( But - >1) I (still) do not think it is right that an NCCer chairs a > this group. One of the missions of the group is to act as > a pressure group towards the NCC. I have expressed this in I'm not sure whether this is the one and only possible position. My understanding was that the NCC as the Regional Registry has some responsibilities towards the Global Registry, and thus I don't see where a "pressure group" approach would fit into the picture. > the past but those present at that meeting forcefully :-) > agreed that they were happy I agreed to stay on. > Since the fact that I chair this group now has been used > as one of the arguments to critisise the RIPE NCC management > structure as a whole I have to resign. Given the recent history in networking in Europe, this is probably not going to stop the criticisms but at least lifts the responsibility from your shoulders :-( >2) The NCC is currently understaffed and any reduction in the load > on all staff is welcome. This seems to be the most valid point. >So please be prepared that a new chairperson will have to be elected >at the next meeting. While I don't want to try to keep bothering you to reconsider your decision - let me say that I think we (all the Local-IRs) were *VERY* happy with the way this WG was chaired by you. I hope that we can find a way to keep this collaborative attitude instead of implementing "pressure groups" within RIPE. Best regards, Wilfried. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Wilfried.Woeber at CC.UniVie.ac.at Computer Center - ACOnet : Vienna University : Tel: +43 1 4065822 355 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4065822 170 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : NIC: WW144 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mnorris at dalkey.hea.ie Thu Apr 28 17:06:01 1994 From: mnorris at dalkey.hea.ie (Mike Norris) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 94 16:06:01 +0100 Subject: Chairman Resigns In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 28 Apr 94 15:52:46 BST." <0097DA37.19B8B1A0.2243@cc.univie.ac.at> Message-ID: <9404281506.AA02507@dalkey.hea.ie> D'accord, Wilfried, the IR-Local WG has been excellent and the most important feature is the collaborative nature which Daniel embodies. Cheers. Mike From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Thu Apr 28 17:10:19 1994 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 17:10:19 +0200 Subject: Chairman Resigns In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 28 Apr 1994 15:52:46 BST. <0097DA37.19B8B1A0.2243@cc.univie.ac.at> Message-ID: <9404281510.AA03737@reif.ripe.net> > "Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" writes: > > >1) I (still) do not think it is right that an NCCer chairs a > > this group. One of the missions of the group is to act as > > a pressure group towards the NCC. I have expressed this in > > I'm not sure whether this is the one and only possible position. > My understanding was that the NCC as the Regional Registry has some > responsibilities towards the Global Registry, and thus I don't see > where a "pressure group" approach would fit into the picture. While this is true, I view the local registries very much as customers of the NCC as well. We provide a service for you. One of the tasks of the local-ir group is to provide feedback (critisism, requests) about that service to the NCC and maybe even complain to others if the NCC doesn't provide the required service. That is what I meant. Pressure group is really not the right word. > ... > > >2) The NCC is currently understaffed and any reduction in the load > > on all staff is welcome. > > This seems to be the most valid point. Of course. That's why I made it last ;-). But the other one is valid as well. > >So please be prepared that a new chairperson will have to be elected > >at the next meeting. > > While I don't want to try to keep bothering you to reconsider your > decision - let me say that I think we (all the Local-IRs) were *VERY* > happy with the way this WG was chaired by you. Thank you for your kind words. They really help sometimes. > I hope that we can find > a way to keep this collaborative attitude instead of implementing > "pressure groups" within RIPE. I hope so too. Daniel From jrau at dfn.de Thu Apr 28 17:40:04 1994 From: jrau at dfn.de (Juergen Rauschenbach) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 94 17:40:04 +0200 Subject: Chairman Resigns Message-ID: <9404281540.AA27407@deneb.dfn.de> Daniel, Wilfried, ... > > While this is true, I view the local registries very much as customers > of the NCC as well. We provide a service for you. One of the tasks of > the local-ir group is to provide feedback (critisism, requests) > about that service to the NCC and maybe even complain to others > if the NCC doesn't provide the required service. Even more important is the opportunity to put the local-ir forces together to defend the Internet address room ... ... > > > > While I don't want to try to keep bothering you to reconsider your > > decision - let me say that I think we (all the Local-IRs) were *VERY* > > happy with the way this WG was chaired by you. > I want to second this. > Thank you for your kind words. They really help sometimes. > > > I hope that we can find > > a way to keep this collaborative attitude instead of implementing > > "pressure groups" within RIPE. > > I hope so too. > > Daniel > Juergen