[ipv6-wg] Have we failed as IPv6 Working Group?
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Carlos Friaças
cfriacas at fccn.pt
Sat Oct 5 22:40:57 CEST 2019
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019, Michel Py wrote: > Hi Carlos, > >> Carlos Friaças wrote : >> We have to acknowledge "IPv6 zealots" are real. >> Disclaimer: i think i was part of that group some years ago. > > Indeed, and so was I. WAS. > > >> But Mr.Rey's reference about IPv6 deployment rates also makes a good point! > > Nobody cares about deployment rates. What good does it do, if people don't use it ? > This is more realistic : https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html > During the week, we are below 25%. So...? Things move slowly, but they are moving. IPv6 in terms of volume is still a long way behind IPv4. >> We also have to acknowledge "IPv4 zealots" are real. > > And they are the ones with the money. The lobbyists. The connections. The banana peels. The 75% market share. > The IPv4 zealots have not always been there; they have been created as a reaction to the nonsense of the IPv6 zealots. Admitting that "zealotism" is not a got thing might be a good 1st step. > IPv6 replacing IPv4 is a delusion. Same can be said about the oil-driven economy, however... > 3 months ago, I turned DECNET off on my network. It was actually not > even an IT/network decision; customer decided they were done with a > product, and we de-commissioned the tools with DECNET. Business > decision. We run OS/2 Warp, MS-DOS, Windows 95, HPUX, Solaris, Windows > 2000, and I probably forget some. So, hardly any IPv6 there :-) > In 20 years, I will still need IPv4. Sure, if IPv6 doesn't become dominant. > And I have enough IPv4 on my hands for the foreseeable future. I bought some recently, just in case. The "foreseeable future" is also a bit uncertain :-) If a new project pops up that will need 10x the public address space you have... good luck. But yes, a thick wallet might solve it... Cheers, Carlos > I encourage the WG group to read this : > https://www.internetgovernance.org/2019/02/20/report-on-ipv6-get-ready-for-a-mixed-internet-world/ > And the full text : > https://www.internetgovernance.org/wp-content/uploads/IPv6-Migration-Study-final-report.pdf > Serious work, paid by ICANN. > > Michel. > >
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