[ipv6-wg] IPv6 cloud!

> Anno domini 2016 Benedikt Stockebrand scripsit:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > > About two years ago there was a large German VoIP provider complaining
> > > that all these evil German cable providers had started using IPv6. They
> > > wrote about it in an their BLOG. There were about 70 comments in the
> > > form of "Why don't you just provide IPv6?"
> > 
> > Don't forget to mention their statement in that blog that "it's a
> > problem between you and your ISP."  Telling that to users who have been
> > switched to DS-Lite (without their ISP even telling them, at least in
> > some cases), and whose "land line" phone stopped working, that's about
> > as good as it gets when you really, really, REALLY want some customers
> > never ever to come back.
> > 
> > "*Our* Internet works, so it must be yours that needs fixing!"
> > 
> > "We have enough IPv4 addresses for ourselves, so this isn't a problem to
> > us."
> 
> That's the dumbest and sadly most oftenly heared sentence in this context.
> 
> I had hoped that there were some IPv6 only/broken IPv4 services around
> today that would show people that's not the way to go, but I don't
> know any. Does anyone have a good example here?
> 

Not an example, but rather a dream - World IPv4 Outage Day ;-)

> Even in the educational sector where I work, where we have enough[tm]
> money for hardware and tutorials there's no interest in a useful deployment.
> Activating v6 in the 5k+ users wifi is delayed (again) for next year, because
> it's neither important or urgent. That's the point where I gave up
> 
> What I absolutely fail to grasp is why people don't want to deploy
> this v6 stuff while they have a chance to do it without user/customer/
> peer pressure but want to wait until the pressure gets too high.
> Don't anyone talk about diamonds now..
> 
> > > There was a lot of time to see that IPv6 is coming. There are still
> > > networking projects today that are not build with IPv6 in mind[3].
> > 
> > And then there are those network projects that claim they support IPv6
> > but actually only do "IPv4 with longer addresses".  But that's the real
> > problem: There's a painful shortage of people who know about networking
> > in general, but with IPv6 it's absolutely hopeless.  There aren't even
> > enough people who just memorized enough cookbook recipes they don't
> > understand to get IPv6 (sort of) up and running.
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> Where's that drain cleaner?
> 
> Best
> Max
> -- 
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> 

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