From maildanrl at gmail.com Sat Aug 3 13:46:20 2013 From: maildanrl at gmail.com (Dan Luedtke) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:46:20 +0200 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Interest in IPv6-only world? In-Reply-To: <20130710165350.6a53fa17@earth.home.time-travellers.org> References: <20130710165350.6a53fa17@earth.home.time-travellers.org> Message-ID: I am running an IPv6-only network, but to be honest it is not yet ready to to handle all my use cases. Often operating system updates fail due to ipv4-only update servers. The equipment is all software, the switch is openvswitch on a 12-NIC linux box from soekris, the router is a linux box and most of the systems are linux systems. Thus I am able to implement everything what I am missing in software. I do not have to wait for vendors to implement a specific feature. The downside of this is, that it quite slow. It works for small work groups, but it would never scale up to enterprise environment. Dual Stack networks and NAT64 networks cost more money, so I see a real business case for IPv6-only as soon as there are no bigger business cases bound to ipv4 (like hundreds(!) of enterprise applications that were in the stoneage of IT) Best regards Dan On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Shane Kerr wrote: > All, > > I saw this today: > > http://wiki.test-ipv6.com/wiki/Main_Page > > And I was thinking about the seeming increase in interest recently in > researching the realities of an IPv6-only world. > > According to Cisco's IPv6 stats site: > > http://6lab.cisco.com/stats/ > > We're a long way from having most content available over IPv6... but > not *that* long, if we can take the 40% numbers seriously. > > So I guess this is mostly a "setting the groundwork" for now, but maybe > not. Does anyone actually run an IPv6-only network now, or is thinking > about it? (As in, without a gateway to the IPv4 world.) > > Cheers, > > -- > Shane > -- Dan Luedtke http://www.danrl.de From jfesler at gigo.com Wed Aug 7 03:10:33 2013 From: jfesler at gigo.com (Jason Fesler) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:10:33 -0700 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Interest in IPv6-only world? In-Reply-To: References: <20130710165350.6a53fa17@earth.home.time-travellers.org> Message-ID: FYI, there is a wiki being used to track how things behave in the IPv6-only (and the NAT64) world; specifically focused on the case of hosts without *any* IPv4 at all. you're welcome to browse, and contribute. :-) Contribution does require a (moderated) login; but it's open to anyone who doesn't act like a spambot. http://wiki.test-ipv6.com/ On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Dan Luedtke wrote: > I am running an IPv6-only network, but to be honest it is not yet > ready to to handle all my use cases. Often operating system updates > fail due to ipv4-only update servers. The equipment is all software, > the switch is openvswitch on a 12-NIC linux box from soekris, the > router is a linux box and most of the systems are linux systems. Thus > I am able to implement everything what I am missing in software. I do > not have to wait for vendors to implement a specific feature. The > downside of this is, that it quite slow. It works for small work > groups, but it would never scale up to enterprise environment. > > Dual Stack networks and NAT64 networks cost more money, so I see a > real business case for IPv6-only as soon as there are no bigger > business cases bound to ipv4 (like hundreds(!) of enterprise > applications that were in the stoneage of IT) > > Best regards > > Dan > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Shane Kerr wrote: >> All, >> >> I saw this today: >> >> http://wiki.test-ipv6.com/wiki/Main_Page >> >> And I was thinking about the seeming increase in interest recently in >> researching the realities of an IPv6-only world. >> >> According to Cisco's IPv6 stats site: >> >> http://6lab.cisco.com/stats/ >> >> We're a long way from having most content available over IPv6... but >> not *that* long, if we can take the 40% numbers seriously. >> >> So I guess this is mostly a "setting the groundwork" for now, but maybe >> not. Does anyone actually run an IPv6-only network now, or is thinking >> about it? (As in, without a gateway to the IPv4 world.) >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- >> Shane >> > > > > -- > Dan Luedtke > http://www.danrl.de > -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." From fgont at si6networks.com Thu Aug 8 23:56:39 2013 From: fgont at si6networks.com (Fernando Gont) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:56:39 -0300 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Fwd: IPv6 Hackers meeting (Berlin 2013): Slideware and videos In-Reply-To: <5203A6FA.1000306@si6networks.com> References: <5203A6FA.1000306@si6networks.com> Message-ID: <52041417.6090404@si6networks.com> Folks, FYI -------- Original Message -------- Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 11:11:06 -0300 From: Fernando Gont To: IPv6 Hackers Mailing List Subject: IPv6 Hackers meeting (Berlin 2013): Slideware and videos X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, I've uploaded the slideware of most of the presentations, and have also included links to the videos uploaded by Dan. Everything is available here: . Enjoy! -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont at si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 From ceo at teds.pk Fri Aug 9 07:28:13 2013 From: ceo at teds.pk (IMTIAZ AHMED) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 22:28:13 -0700 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Interest in IPv6-only world? In-Reply-To: References: <20130710165350.6a53fa17@earth.home.time-travellers.org> Message-ID: please guide through IPv6 only on Wi-Fi dedicated (PTP and PTMP) and Hotspot. This area is ripe for IPv6 only network requiring less complexity. IMTIAZ AHMED (Chief Executive Officer) *TEDS (Private) Limited* * *273-B, St.55, F-11/4, Islamabad-44000. T: +92 512 211 700 , M: +92 334 516 76 09 E: ceo at teds.pk On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Jason Fesler wrote: > FYI, there is a wiki being used to track how things behave in the > IPv6-only (and the NAT64) world; specifically focused on the case of > hosts without *any* IPv4 at all. > > you're welcome to browse, and contribute. :-) Contribution does > require a (moderated) login; but it's open to anyone who doesn't act > like a spambot. > > http://wiki.test-ipv6.com/ > > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Dan Luedtke wrote: > > I am running an IPv6-only network, but to be honest it is not yet > > ready to to handle all my use cases. Often operating system updates > > fail due to ipv4-only update servers. The equipment is all software, > > the switch is openvswitch on a 12-NIC linux box from soekris, the > > router is a linux box and most of the systems are linux systems. Thus > > I am able to implement everything what I am missing in software. I do > > not have to wait for vendors to implement a specific feature. The > > downside of this is, that it quite slow. It works for small work > > groups, but it would never scale up to enterprise environment. > > > > Dual Stack networks and NAT64 networks cost more money, so I see a > > real business case for IPv6-only as soon as there are no bigger > > business cases bound to ipv4 (like hundreds(!) of enterprise > > applications that were in the stoneage of IT) > > > > Best regards > > > > Dan > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Shane Kerr > wrote: > >> All, > >> > >> I saw this today: > >> > >> http://wiki.test-ipv6.com/wiki/Main_Page > >> > >> And I was thinking about the seeming increase in interest recently in > >> researching the realities of an IPv6-only world. > >> > >> According to Cisco's IPv6 stats site: > >> > >> http://6lab.cisco.com/stats/ > >> > >> We're a long way from having most content available over IPv6... but > >> not *that* long, if we can take the 40% numbers seriously. > >> > >> So I guess this is mostly a "setting the groundwork" for now, but maybe > >> not. Does anyone actually run an IPv6-only network now, or is thinking > >> about it? (As in, without a gateway to the IPv4 world.) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> -- > >> Shane > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Dan Luedtke > > http://www.danrl.de > > > > > > -- > Jason Fesler, email/jabber resume: http://jfesler.com > "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; > set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shane at time-travellers.org Wed Aug 14 16:49:20 2013 From: shane at time-travellers.org (Shane Kerr) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:49:20 +0200 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Topics for the RIPE 67 ipv6-wg session Message-ID: <20130814164920.7a635672@luna> All, RIPE 67 is approaching rapidly, and we would like your ideas and submissions for topics for the IPv6 working group. As usual, we have a wide interest in almost anything IPv6 related! Please mail us at ipv6-wg-chair at ripe.net with your talks or suggestions. On behalf of the IPv6 Working Group Chairs, -- Shane From training at ripe.net Mon Aug 19 11:12:23 2013 From: training at ripe.net (Training Team) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:12:23 +0200 Subject: [ipv6-wg] [training] RIPE NCC Webinars - new dates In-Reply-To: <51CBF196.2070003@ripe.net> References: <51CBF196.2070003@ripe.net> Message-ID: <5211E177.4030909@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, We are pleased to announce the launch of new dates for our Webinars. The RIPE NCC Webinars are live and take only one hour. You can interact with our trainers without leaving your desk. We focus on the topics and issues most important for LIRs. Register now at https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/e-learning/webinars Participation is limited to 20 people, so don't hesitate if you want to take part! If you have questions, please email . We look forward to seeing you online. 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